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FYI: qt is going to be LGPL

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Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
to Luca Olivetti

This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the lazarus-qt interface.

And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho

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zeljko
to Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote 6 lines
This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the lazarus-qt interface. And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

But it will not be inside LCLQt until 4.5.1 release (so it's at least 4-6 months from now on).

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zeljko
to Luca Olivetti: You probably already know this, anyway I thing is good news for the qt lazarus port. Qt…
Luca Olivetti wrote 5 lines
You probably already know this, anyway I thing is good news for the qt lazarus port. Qt 4.5 is going to be released under the LGPL instead of the GPL: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt

AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this morning:
" Dear Qt User:

Nokia is pleased to announce that with the release of Qt 4.5 you will be able to use Qt under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 terms. When released in March 2009, Qt will be made available under three licensing options: Commercial, LGPL and GPL. Prior versions of Qt are not impacted by this announcement."

It says 3 licencing options.

zeljko

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Eugen Bolz
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AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this morning: " Dear Qt User: Nokia is pleased to announce that with the release of Qt 4.5 you will be able to use Qt under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 terms. When released in March 2009, Qt will be made available under three licensing options: Commercial, LGPL and GPL. Prior versions of Qt are not impacted by this announcement." It says 3 licencing options. zeljko _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or only Open-Source and Commercial?

Best Regards,
Eugen

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the lazarus-qt interface. And…
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote 6 lines
This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the lazarus-qt interface. And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box.

Why such strict requirement for the version ?

This says to me that as soon as a system updates to Qt 4.6 all is possibly broken ? That seems like a very bad situation, which IMHO should be solved rather quickly, because it severely limits the usefullness of the Qt interface.

The GTK interface works on a relatively wide range of GTK 2 versions, which is a good thing.

Michael.

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Vincent Snijders
to Michael Van Canneyt

2009/1/14 Michael Van Canneyt :

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the > lazarus-qt interface. > > And even more, it becomes a viable substitute for the gtk2 interface > in UNIXes. The only problem being that Qt 4.5 would be required, which > means that at the moment no distribution supports it out of the box. Why such strict requirement for the version ? This says to me that as soon as a system updates to Qt 4.6 all is possibly broken ? That seems like a very bad situation, which IMHO should be solved rather quickly, because it severely limits the usefullness of the Qt interface.

Maybe Felipe means Qt 4.5 and higher.

Vincent

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Luca Olivetti
to zeljko: AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this morning: " Dear Qt…

En/na zeljko ha escrit:

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On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:19, Luca Olivetti wrote: > You probably already know this, anyway I thing is good news for the qt > lazarus port. > > Qt 4.5 is going to be released under the LGPL instead of the GPL: > http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/lgpl-license-option-added-to-qt AFAIK , it will not be replacement for GPL. I got mail from nokia this morning: " Dear Qt User: Nokia is pleased to announce that with the release of Qt 4.5 you will be able to use Qt under the Lesser General Public License (LGPL) version 2.1 terms. When released in March 2009, Qt will be made available under three licensing options: Commercial, LGPL and GPL. Prior versions of Qt are not impacted by this announcement." It says 3 licencing options.

Ok, my bad, it's not /replacing/ the GPL, but offering you the /additional/ option of using it under the LGPL.
IANAL but I think that the end result is the same: you will be able to use qt4.5 for gpl programs *and* for closed program. Just like gtk.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1.html

Bye

Luca Olivetti Wetron Automatizaci?n S.A. http://www.wetron.es/ Tel. +34 93 5883004 Fax +34 93 5883007

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Luca Olivetti
to Eugen Bolz: Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or only Open-Source…

En/na Eugen Bolz ha escrit:

Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or only Open-Source and Commercial?

IANAL but, yes, it will be possible starting with qt4.5, since the LGPL allows that.
With the current version you have to buy a commercial license if your application is not GPL.

Bye

Luca Olivetti Wetron Automatizaci?n S.A. http://www.wetron.es/ Tel. +34 93 5883004 Fax +34 93 5883007

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Eugen Bolz
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En/na Eugen Bolz ha escrit: > Is it possible to create Freeware , non Open-Source, Applications? Or > only Open-Source and Commercial? > IANAL but, yes, it will be possible starting with qt4.5, since the LGPL allows that. With the current version you have to buy a commercial license if your application is not GPL. Bye

Okay, i ll wait until this Version is out, and maybe starting then with Qt, thanks :)

Btw, what means IANAL ?

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Den Jean
to Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the lazarus-qt interface. And…
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote
This is just fantastic. It really adds a lot of value to the lazarus-qt interface.

Furthermore it may soon be possible to use webkit with lazarus/qt:

First draft test: Lazarus demo program with Qt Webkit Widget.

http://users.telenet.be/Jan.Van.hijfte/qtforfpc/lazarus_webkit.png

Is someone interested in webkit ?

regards,

Den Jean

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