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State of the union ?

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Marc Weustink
to Michael Van Canneyt: A small demo suite like the one with the dialogs would be a good idea and a good test.…

+ From: ]On
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+ On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Michael A. Hess wrote:
+
+ > wrote:
+ > >
+ > > Good. How far are we with the IDE ?
+ >
+ > I'll have to leave Marc answer that one. From what I understand it is
+ > getting very close. One nasty problem, as I see it, is that one
+ > currently needs to be running XWindows in 8bit mode to see anything work
+ > or various items will core.

That just a temporary hack. If you want another resolution just change the following line in TBitmap.Create:

constructor TBitmap.Create;
begin
  inherited Create;
  // supported: pf8bit, pf15bit, pf16bit, pf24bit, pf32bit (and some others)
  FPixelFormat := pf8bit; // <--- change this to the depth of your display
  FCanvas := TBitmapCanvas.Create(Self);
end;

At that time I wasn't able to get the depth of the system we are running on, and to get things working for me (to get the editor running) I defaulted to 8.

+ > I run in 32bit so it is a pain to change over to check on things.

It should be possible to run a second X sesion on a second virtual console ;-)

+ > What say you Marc? Can you give us a brief but detailed
+ > report on what you have working with mwEdit and the IDE?

mwEdit AND the IDE ? On the editor I'm getting close. For some reason it wont set the number of lines bigger than 0. This is done in the resize method, and I just fixed some events to get a resize event. So thats the current state. I expect I'm close. Since the moment it has more lines it will display more lines.

After that I'll look after putting scrolbars support into TWinControl/TCustomControl so we can scroll text :-) And there after I might rush trough all events/components to fix the events and the way of creation.
After that I might look after TImageList to complete (hmm.. I'll first fix the Draw)

+ > > How many running components are there ?
+ >
+ > Hmmmmm. That is a very good question that I guess we really
+ > do need to figure out. Several previously working components have been
+ > broken due to the conversion to the WindProc method of doing things.

Hmm... the WindProc hasn't to do very much with this. It the change of creating components and attaching signals. In the past this was done in the constructor of the component and now its handled by TWinControl.

+ > That and other changes that were made for canvas and this and that.
+ > I will have to look at going back through and attempt to use some
+ > of the components to see what still does and doesn't work.

The moment I see a component not creating itself the way it should I fix it.

+ A small demo suite like the one with the dialogs would be a
+ good idea and a good test.

Thats a point. The Hello and ComDlgs demo apps are a good test case, but they only test a limited amount of components. Maybe we should create a form with all the components we have.

Marc

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Michael A. Hess
to Unknown author: Good. How far are we with the IDE ? How many running components are there ? [cut] Aha; I…
Good. How far are we with the IDE ?

I'll have to leave Marc answer that one. From what I understand it is getting very close. One nasty problem, as I see it, is that one currently needs to be running XWindows in 8bit mode to see anything work or various items will core. I run in 32bit so it is a pain to change over to check on things.

What say you Marc? Can you give us a brief but detailed report on what you have working with mwEdit and the IDE?

How many running components are there ?

Hmmmmm. That is a very good question that I guess we really do need to figure out. Several previously working components have been broken due to the conversion to the WindProc method of doing things. That and other changes that were made for canvas and this and that. I will have to look at going back through and attempt to use some of the components to see what still does and doesn't work.

Aha; I was wondering if you got my message about that or not, seeing that I didn't heer from you :-)

Sorry about that. I guess I never really did reply to your email.

==== Programming my first best destiny! ==== Michael A. Hess Miracle Concepts, Inc. http://www.miraclec.com

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Shane Miller
to Michael Van Canneyt: It's been rather quiet the last time on the Lazarus list. Can someone give me an overview…

I am on vacation this week spending time with my family. I will become active again next week.

I am currently adding the TToolbar and TToolbutton classes to the LCL.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Van Canneyt" To: "Lazarus project" Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 4:09 AM Subject: [lazarus] State of the union ? > Hello, > > It's been rather quiet the last time on the Lazarus list. Can someone > give me an overview of where we are, what remains to be done, and when > this will be done ? > > It seems that half the team has disappeared from the earth ! > Cliff, Shane, Michael ? > > Michael. > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe: mail with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject > archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus >

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Michael Van Canneyt

Hello,

It's been rather quiet the last time on the Lazarus list. Can someone give me an overview of where we are, what remains to be done, and when this will be done ?

It seems that half the team has disappeared from the earth ! Cliff, Shane, Michael ?

Michael.

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Michael A. Hess
to Michael Van Canneyt
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 9 lines
Hello, It's been rather quiet the last time on the Lazarus list. Can someone give me an overview of where we are, what remains to be done, and when this will be done ? It seems that half the team has disappeared from the earth ! Cliff, Shane, Michael ?

Well Shane has already reported. He also submitted something which I have placed on the front door to the web site. I am also waiting on a status from Marc to place on the web site.

As to Cliff I haven't heard anything at all from him for weeks. Since he went hunting I haven't heard anything. I just checked his web site and find that he is working on a product called "Python Builder". It appears to be something to be a direct replacement of Visual Basic using Python. I will have to write him directly to inquire whether he is still involved with Lazarus or not.

As to myself. Well when I have time I am working on the TRegistry and TRegIni classes. I am also working on IDKSM so that it can be incorporated into the Magellan output so that a search engine will be usable with the HTML version of the PDF documents. For anyone who hasn't seen the initial conversion it is at.

http://www.miraclec.com/fpcmanuals/

I am also trying to find time to update the classchart.ps file with the classes from the LCL so we can have a complete tree of all current classes.

I am also working on the web site making updates and also rewriting this site to use Javascript so that translations and updates to the site will be easier.

I have asked Shane and Marc (the 2 major developers at this point in time) to submit status and updates so that I can have a "News" section on the web site to inform users what is going on. If anyone would like to include information please send it to me.

Beyond that I am doing things that actually help my business make some money. ;-)

==== Programming my first best destiny! ==== Michael A. Hess Miracle Concepts, Inc. http://www.miraclec.com

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Michael A. Hess
to Tom: Hmmm... I'm new to the list and curious how many other developers are actively…
Tom wrote 9 lines
> It seems that half the team has disappeared from the earth ! > Cliff, Shane, Michael ? Hmmm... I'm new to the list and curious how many other developers are actively contributing besides Shane and Marc? I counted 11 names on the website.

Well it seems to ebb and flow depending on what other work we need to do. Right now Shane and Marc seem to be the major contributors to Lazarus. Michael V.C. occasionally contributes but his major effort is with FPC itself. Sebastian contributes to the FCL and puts most of his effort into KCL. As to Stefan, I haven't heard from him for awhile. Jeff and Curtis are busy with other business matters.

I'm also wondering who the "benevolent dictator" is? Up to now, I had the impression it was Cliff.

Well now that has never really been established. This also seems to ebb and flow between Cliff, Shane, and myself. Since Cliff is more focused on his Python Builder project at this point in time I think it will probably be between Shane and myself. Let's put it this way we are the most vocal on what gets done and how. ;-)

Now as to how many developers are really active. That is one of the big problems we have had on this project from day one. There has never been more than a handful working on this at any given time. Right now I am somewhat busy with other matters so it has been Shane and Marc pulling most of the weight. We can also use more help. Anybody but anybody that contributes, even just a little bit is greatly appreciated.

==== Programming my first best destiny! ==== Michael A. Hess Miracle Concepts, Inc. http://www.miraclec.com

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Michael A. Hess
to Tom: Hmmm... I'm new to the list and curious how many other developers are actively…
Stefan Hille wrote
Currently I plan to check/update the components I did so far (group, progress, timer and trackbar). Depending on their state I'll give TBitmap another try.

Excellent! I believe you will find that progress is one that is now broken and needs some minor repair. I say this because the example no longer compiles but I haven't had time to examine what the problem is. Let me know what you find out with the above mentioned components so we can attempt to generate a report of currently ported and working components.

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Stefan Hille
to Tom: Hmmm... I'm new to the list and curious how many other developers are actively…

Hi Michael and all the rest of you!

Michael A. Hess wrote 7 lines
[...] Well it seems to ebb and flow depending on what other work we need to do. Right now Shane and Marc seem to be the major contributors to Lazarus. Michael V.C. occasionally contributes but his major effort is with FPC itself. Sebastian contributes to the FCL and puts most of his effort into KCL. As to Stefan, I haven't heard from him for awhile. Jeff and Curtis are busy with other business matters.

Nice that you still remember me. I'm very busy these days with my own company, working about 10 and more hours a day. I hope to find some time for lazarus between x-mas and new year. Currently I plan to check/update the components I did so far (group, progress, timer and trackbar). Depending on their state I'll give TBitmap another try.

BTW: If somebody plans to work on TBitmap I can provide a lot of code.

bye,

Stefan

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Marc Weustink
to Michael A. Hess: Well it seems to ebb and flow depending on what other work we need to do. Right now Shane…
Stefan wrote
BTW: If somebody plans to work on TBitmap I can provide a lot of code.

Hmm... I allso implemented parts to get the editor working. Yust mail it to me and I'll see what I can do.

To all others:
I just had a mayor sytem upgrade and it's no fun to find out that your brand new asus p2bds isn't working. It took me a few das to gat this far. On the other side.... A dedicated Linux box is just to be finished. So on all other mails.. tomorrow.

Marc

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to Michael A. Hess: Well Shane has already reported. He also submitted something which I have placed on the…
Michael A. Hess wrote 14 lines
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > Hello, > > It's been rather quiet the last time on the Lazarus list. Can someone > give me an overview of where we are, what remains to be done, and when > this will be done ? > > It seems that half the team has disappeared from the earth ! > Cliff, Shane, Michael ? Well Shane has already reported. He also submitted something which I have placed on the front door to the web site. I am also waiting on a status from Marc to place on the web site.

Good. How far are we with the IDE ?
How many running components are there ?

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I am also trying to find time to update the classchart.ps file with the classes from the LCL so we can have a complete tree of all current classes.

Aha; I was wondering if you got my message about that or not, seeing that I didn't heer from you :-)

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I am also working on the web site making updates and also rewriting this site to use Javascript so that translations and updates to the site will be easier. I have asked Shane and Marc (the 2 major developers at this point in time) to submit status and updates so that I can have a "News" section on the web site to inform users what is going on. If anyone would like to include information please send it to me. Beyond that I am doing things that actually help my business make some money. ;-)

That should be everybody's first worry of course...

Michael.

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Michael A. Hess: I'll have to leave Marc answer that one. From what I understand it is getting very close.…
Michael A. Hess wrote 21 lines
wrote: > > Good. How far are we with the IDE ? I'll have to leave Marc answer that one. From what I understand it is getting very close. One nasty problem, as I see it, is that one currently needs to be running XWindows in 8bit mode to see anything work or various items will core. I run in 32bit so it is a pain to change over to check on things. What say you Marc? Can you give us a brief but detailed report on what you have working with mwEdit and the IDE? > How many running components are there ? Hmmmmm. That is a very good question that I guess we really do need to figure out. Several previously working components have been broken due to the conversion to the WindProc method of doing things. That and other changes that were made for canvas and this and that. I will have to look at going back through and attempt to use some of the components to see what still does and doesn't work.

A small demo suite like the one with the dialogs would be a good idea and a good test.

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> Aha; I was wondering if you got my message about that or not, seeing > that I didn't heer from you :-) Sorry about that. I guess I never really did reply to your email.

That's OK, I understand, I have a job & hobbies too :-)

Michael.

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Tom
It seems that half the team has disappeared from the earth ! Cliff, Shane, Michael ?

Hmmm...

I'm new to the list and curious how many other developers are actively contributing besides Shane and Marc? I counted 11 names on the website. I'm also wondering who the "benevolent dictator" is? Up to now, I had the impression it was Cliff.

Tom

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