For some days I have the mikroPascal Compiler from Mikroelektronika. And I am satisfied with it.

http://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/avr

With that product the declaration of an array is also possible with only one number.

For example:

var test : array[ 10 ] of byte;

Like in C.
That would make migration from C to Pascal easier.

Is it posssible to integrate this in Freepascal also?

I think this was requested a looooooooong time ago but was rejected. I forgot what was the reason, but I myself don't really like it despite it's upward compatible with Oberon. As for easy migration from C, do you really think removing "0 .." (approximately 4 characters) is a benefit?

On 18/06/13 18:42, leledumbo wrote:

well, to be honest, int hahaha[10] -> hahaha: array[0..9] of integer;

it is not just adding "0.."

anyway, a change in the converter should be more adequate, IMHO, that by default translates [X] into [0 .. X-1]

just my 2c

I think this was requested a looooooooong time ago but was rejected. I forgot what was the reason, but I myself don't really like it despite it's upward compatible with Oberon. As for easy migration from C, do you really think removing "0 .." (approximately 4 characters) is a benefit?

As for easy migration from C, do you really think removing "0 .." (approximately 4 characters) is a benefit?

Yes of course. In large programs it is helping you to be correct all the time when migrating code. See also the statement of Alberto.

anyway, a change in the converter should be more adequate, IMHO, that by default translates [X] into [0 .. X-1]

In C(++) arrays are defined only like you describe. Freepascal can easily adapt this, I am sure.

You can use the argument of Alberto in a different sense: migration is easier but people might make mistakes when reading the code.

Yes that is with all kind of information if you don't have backgrund knowledge. But in this case there aren't much possibilities of misunderstanding the code. And it is not that difficult to understand than for example some kind of object oriented programming.

As reading your statement between the lines I think you would like to refuse the suggestion, right?

Rainer Stratmann wrote

Yes that is with all kind of information if you don't have backgrund knowledge.

Minimising the amount of required background knowledge and making everything self-explanatory is a fundamental part of the Pascal philosophy.

As reading your statement between the lines I think you would like to refuse the suggestion, right?

Adding redundancy to a language is seldom a good idea.

Jonas

Sure there is an 'explanation' for everything. Like the lawyers do.

Why don't you say you don't want to add because it means more work?

For making porting code from other Pascal compilers easier fpc supports the modes (Delphi, TP, MacPas, ...). Do you think it is worth to add a new mikroPascal mode or modeswitch?

Like in C. That would make migration from C to Pascal easier. Is it posssible to integrate this in Freepascal also?

Compiling other languages syntax is not the goal of a Pascal compiler.
C to Pascal converters have this goal.

Mattias

C to Pascal converters have this goal.

Hum, do you know some good Pascal 2 C converter ?
Yes, the world change in the past i was looking for good C2Pas or h2Pas, now i need Pas2C converters...

you wrote

For making porting code from other Pascal compilers easier fpc supports the modes (Delphi, TP, MacPas, ...). Do you think it is worth to add a new mikroPascal mode or modeswitch?

Don't think that complicated.
For this 'revolutionary' feature there is no compiler switch necessary. Neither will it have influence on compatibility. Neither is it that difficult to implement.

I should have known before.

Stupid me.

C to Pascal converters have this goal. Hum, do you know some good Pascal 2 C converter ? Yes, the world change in the past i was looking for good C2Pas or h2Pas, >now i need Pas2C converters...

Hum, to clarify, i need a Pas 2 C converter, not because i want to migrate to C, but because i have developped some libraries in Pascal and some C developpers want to use it...