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Brian Prentice

Lazarus has not met its goal of 'write once and compile and run anywhere' and is taking far too long to develop. Should it be abandoned and replaced with a new graphical user interface library based on the Java Swing toolkit? I would be interested in your comments on this matter.

Brian Prentice

Henry Vermaak
to Brian Prentice

2009/7/28 Brian Prentice :

Lazarus has not met its goal of 'write once and compile and run anywhere' and is taking far too long to develop.  Should it be abandoned and replaced with a new graphical user interface library based on the Java Swing toolkit?  I would be interested in your comments on this matter.

Maybe you should send this to the lazarus mailing list?

Does the Java Swing toolkit have c-style bindings? I expect it doesn't, which would mean that you will have to write an interface library, like lazarus uses with qt.

You are welcome to develop a new lcl interface that targets swing. I personally see no point in inserting a useless layer in between lazarus and the (native) widgetset.

Henry

Michael Van Canneyt
to Brian Prentice: Lazarus has not met its goal of 'write once and compile and run anywhere' and is taking…
Brian Prentice wrote
Lazarus has not met its goal of 'write once and compile and run anywhere' and is taking far too long to develop. Should it be abandoned and replaced with a new graphical user interface library based on the Java Swing toolkit? I would be interested in your comments on this matter.

And why has it not met it's goal according to you ? It works fine for me on the 2 platforms I use...

In each case, using Java is not an option, since I don't think there are C bindings.

Michael.

Jonas Maebe
to Henry Vermaak: 2009/7/28 Brian Prentice : Maybe you should send this to the lazarus mailing list? Does…
Henry Vermaak wrote 10 lines
2009/7/28 Brian Prentice : > Lazarus has not met its goal of 'write once and compile and run > anywhere' > and is taking far too long to develop. Should it be abandoned and > replaced > with a new graphical user interface library based on the Java Swing > toolkit? > I would be interested in your comments on this matter. Maybe you should send this to the lazarus mailing list?

Yes, indeed. This topic is not suitable for this list, and given the highly controversial statements I'm blocking it on this list before it gets completely out of hand.

Jonas
FPC mailing lists admin

Graeme Geldenhuys
to Jonas Maebe
Jonas Maebe wrote
Yes, indeed. This topic is not suitable for this list,

I beg to differ.... The original poster is not happy with Lazarus, so this list is probably a good place to ask for alternatives. Well, that's how I understood it.

I would not imagine the Lazarus mailing list being a good place to ask for alternatives to Lazarus. Do you?

PS:
So how to I know if my message went through, which proposes two alternative projects for Brian to try out?

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/
Jonas Maebe
to Graeme Geldenhuys
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 9 lines
Jonas Maebe wrote: > Yes, indeed. This topic is not suitable for this list, I beg to differ.... The original poster is not happy with Lazarus, so this list is probably a good place to ask for alternatives. Well, that's how I understood it. I would not imagine the Lazarus mailing list being a good place to ask for alternatives to Lazarus. Do you?

The fpc-pascal list is for getting help with using FPC and with programming in Pascal. This kind of discussion, especially if started in such a provocative way, can very easily drown any other kind of discussion. Therefore I do not consider it appropriate for this list.

It can however also be discussed on the fpc-other list.

So how to I know if my message went through, which proposes two alternative projects for Brian to try out?

I will not silently discard other messages in this thread, but I will reject them (so you'll get a bounce).

Jonas
FPC mailing lists admin

Graeme Geldenhuys
to Jonas Maebe
Jonas Maebe wrote
The fpc-pascal list is for getting help with using FPC and with programming in Pascal.

Which is fair. Thanks for clarifying.

I will not silently discard other messages in this thread, but I will reject them (so you'll get a bounce).

Unfortunately I already sent another reply before I received the bounced email. Sorry about that.

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/