Some time ago, someone talked about Palm and started developing a FPC compiler for it. I don't remember who it was, but I would like to know if he already had some progress with it or if had stopped?

Carlo Kok

It was me, but the project went on hold because of a few reasons:

1: Lack of time. I changed role at work, and no longer had a lot of free time.

2: I discovered HSPascal (http://hspascal.fihl.net/) and am now involved with beta testing this product. HSPascal is developed by a guy who not only knows how to write pascal compliers from the ground up, but also knows 68000 assembler experience, and has written a 68000 based Pascal compiler for the Atari/Amiga before.

I may pick up Palm FPC at some point, but at the moment it seems pointless, given that HSPascal removes my need to do so!!

Hope that helps,

Matt

On a Related Note, I recently bought a Sharp Zaurus in Japan. This PDA makes the palm look severely anemic. It uses a Hitachi SH3 processor, and runs it's own OS. Also it can run Linux and GCC. FPK would be nice to have on it, but since we don't even have a working Atari compiler released yet, and that has been in development for a while, I know it is pushing things to hope for an SH3 code-generator.

Thanks,
Noah Silva

Interestingly, I program Pascal on the Atari, and have never used HS Pascal. I currently use Pure Pascal (liscenced by Borland, so it is of course very BP Compatible). Do you know is HS pascal is still for sale?

Thanks,
Noah Silva

The amiga version might be.. take a look at the link on the page.

Hope that helps,

Matt

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> > 2: I discovered HSPascal (http://hspascal.fihl.net/) and am now involved

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The reason I love PalmOS is because it's so simple to use. I've been tempted by WinCE in the past, and the PSion Epoc too, but somehow they always seemed to have too much baggage. I love that my old Palmpilot Pro is still a viable computer.. 3 years after I got it (I've also got a handspring too..) Try saying that about most moder PC's in 3 years time!!??!!

Whilst the OS of this Sharp machine may be brilliant, it will still never beat the simplicity that PalmOS brings.. and with a Pascal compiler the possibilities are endless!!! Heh, heh, heh ;)

Matt

Yes, I was actually town between a palm visor and the sharp Zaurus. (I didn't consider winCE as I didn't need any more M$ products...). One example of people getting burned by CE is that they dropped support for some of the processor chips right out from under the manufacturers. HP got screwed because they used the SH chip in their Jornada line, and suddenly the OS disappears. I can see why places ike sharp like to keep the OS under their own control! The Sharp won, not just because of the OS, but because of the power vs. price. My zaurus can recognize handwriting in english -and- japanese, play mp3 files, and mpeg 4 movies. It has a -very- nice calendar app, and a very nice drawing / photo manuipulation program. Like the palm, it has a whole lot of 3rd party programs. Unlike the palm, it is not currently sold in the US. I agree that Win CE is too complex for an organizer. The sharp OS is very simple, but works well (you can even multitask playing an MP3 and using the address book, or running linux and the native OS, for example)

but I'll stop now since this is getting a bitofftopic...

Whilst the OS of this Sharp machine may be brilliant, it will still never beat the simplicity that PalmOS brings.. and with a Pascal compiler the possibilities are endless!!! Heh, heh, heh ;)

I would like to see a pascal compiler for both.

Hello,

I asked this I believe on fpk-develop, with no response, perhaps because it was an inappropriate forum? I will try again here.

I am developing (in Pure Pascal) a library to Access common TCP/IP stack (called STiK) on Atari computers. When free Pascal becomes more usable on the Atari, I will see that it is compilable under that as well. What I am more interested in for now, though is that I can write an app using this TCP Library unit, and compile it also on FPK/Linux. I have nearly completed a low level interface by porting the C bindings for the stack. I ambuilding a pascal friendly version on top of that, and next plan an OOP layer. It would be nice if I could make the second two of thoseunitsto be compatible with some official or defacto standard TCPIP unit included with FPK, so my programs could be compiled out-of-box under both PPC/ATARI and FPK/linux. One example of a program I am developing with these libs is an AIM client. While Atari is more in need of this than Linux, it would be nice if I could also compile these programs under linux. In looking though, I didn't see any TCP unit coming with FPK, perhaps I missed it. There are a myriad of units available, so I have no idea which ones are actually used by a significant number of developers. I considered using the Delphi componant, but that would be difficult, since this is a non-GUI oop layer, and I don't think it will use call-backs.

On an off-note, does anybody know if there is a Sparc code-generator in the works?It sucks that I can't use FPK on these Sun boxes ;<

Thanks,
Noah Silva

There is a sockets unit that contains the most used tcp/ip calls like accept/connect/bind. An inet unit is available for some other calls

On an off-note, does anybody know if there is a Sparc code-generator in the works?It sucks that I can't use FPK on these Sun boxes ;<

First a generic codegenerator should be build, with this generic codegenerator ready porting will be easier.

Could you tell me where I can find these? Are they available on freepascal.org?

Interesting that this wasn't done prior to making the 68k port.

- noah

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I've a HP48g calculator I still use daily. (about 1 MHz, 32 kb) Bought 7 years ago :-)

And there is a pascal compiler too. (but you need more mem for that)

Marco van de Voort wrote

I've a HP48g calculator I still use daily. (about 1 MHz, 32 kb) Bought 7 years ago :-) And there is a pascal compiler too. (but you need more mem for that)

I have an HP48GX, but was unaware of any pascal compiler available for it. Where can this be found?

thanks
- noah silva

Euuh, a French site. www.hppascal.fr.st

> There is a sockets unit that contains the most used tcp/ip calls like

accept/connect/bind.

> An inet unit is available for some other calls > Could you tell me where I can find these? Are they available on freepascal.org?

They are available in the linux version of FPC.

The 68k port was done 2-3 years ago. It's based on the 0.99.5 compiler. Currently we're