Hello,

The lazarus makefile has some dependency issues.

make ide:

make ide

make -C ide ide
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/ide' /bin/mkdir -p ../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2
make -C ../tools svn2revisioninc OS_TARGET=linux CPU_TARGET=x86_64 OPT='' make[2]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/tools' Makefile:2956: warning: overriding recipe for target '.' Makefile:2954: warning: ignoring old recipe for target '.' /usr/local/bin/ppcx64 -gl -Fu. -Fu../components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux -Fu../lcl/units/x86_64-linux -Fu../lcl/units/x86_64-linux/nogui -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/3.3.1/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -FE. -FU. -Cg -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9 -Flinclude -Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf -dx86_64 svn2revisioninc.pas svn2revisioninc.pas(64,3) Fatal: Can't find unit FileUtil used by Svn2RevisionInc Fatal: Compilation aborted
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2967: svn2revisioninc] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/tools' make[1]: *** [Makefile:5387: revisioninc] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/ide' make: *** [Makefile:3788: ide] Error 2

Based on the output of "make help", in an attempt to create svn2revisioninc I did:

make tools

make -C tools
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/tools' Makefile:2956: warning: overriding recipe for target '.' Makefile:2954: warning: ignoring old recipe for target '.' make --assume-new=lazres.pp lazres
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/tools' Makefile:2956: warning: overriding recipe for target '.' Makefile:2954: warning: ignoring old recipe for target '.' /usr/local/bin/ppcx64 -gl -Fu. -Fu../components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux -Fu../lcl/units/x86_64-linux -Fu../lcl/units/x86_64-linux/nogui -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/3.3.1/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -FE. -FU. -Cg -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9 -Flinclude -Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf -dx86_64 lazres.pp lazres.pp(43,22) Fatal: Can't find unit LazLogger used by LazRes Fatal: Compilation aborted
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2964: lazres] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/tools' make[1]: *** [Makefile:3394: all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/tools' make: *** [Makefile:3784: tools] Error 2

Similar,

make basecomponents

make -C components/buildintf
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/components/buildintf' /bin/rm -f units/x86_64-linux/buildintf.ppu
/bin/mkdir -p units/x86_64-linux
/usr/local/bin/ppcx64 -MObjFPC -Scghi -O1 -g -gl -l -vewnhibq -Fu../../packager/units/x86_64-linux -Fu../lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux -Fu. -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/3.3.1/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -FE. -FUunits/x86_64-linux -Cg -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/9 -dx86_64 buildintf.pas Hint: (11030) Start of reading config file /home/michael/.fpc.cfg Hint: (11031) End of reading config file /home/michael/.fpc.cfg Free Pascal Compiler version 3.3.1 [2022/11/05] for x86_64 Copyright (c) 1993-2022 by Florian Klaempfl and others (1002) Target OS: Linux for x86-64
(3104) Compiling buildintf.pas
(3104) Compiling baseideintf.pas
/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/components/buildintf/baseideintf.pas(21,3) Fatal: (10022) Can't find unit LazUTF8 used by BaseIDEIntf fatal: (1018) Compilation aborted

After some more failed attempts trying to compile "sub-targets", I gave up.

Am I correct in my understanding that in fact only the "main" targets all, bigide, useride are supposed to work out of the box when you start from a fresh checkout ?

Michael.

30.11.2022 16:35, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus ?????:

Hello, The lazarus makefile has some dependency issues.

I would recommend to run `make lazbuild` first and then try to proceed again with your commands.

Well, the whole idea of a makefile is that you can give any target and it will first build the dependencies for that target, to free the user of the burden to know or guess the dependencies.

If target 'ide' depends on target 'lazbuild', it should say so in the dependencies of 'ide'.

That said, I followed your suggestion, and then the error is:

(1002) Target OS: Linux for x86-64
(3104) Compiling lazarus.pp
/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/ide/lazarus.pp(57,3) Fatal: (10022) Can't find unit Interfaces used by Lazarus

most likely, the LCL needs to be built first as well.

In each case, for the moment I simply produced a full build using the 'make bigide' target.

I then try to install the result. This installs the IDE.

But I also (in fact, only) need the LCL units.

So I did

make -C lcl install

But the 'make install' in the lcl dir also fails:

/bin/install -c -m 644 units/x86_64-linux/alllclunits.ppu units/x86_64-linux/actnlist.ppu units/x86_64-linux/arrow.ppu units/x86_64-linux/avglvltree.ppu units/x86_64-linux/buttons.ppu units/x86_64-linux/calendar.ppu units/x86_64-linux/chart.ppu units/x86_64-linux/checklst.ppu units/x86_64-linux/clipbrd.ppu units/x86_64-linux/clistbox.ppu units/x86_64-linux/comctrls.ppu units/x86_64-linux/controls.ppu units/x86_64-linux/dbactns.ppu units/x86_64-linux/dbctrls.ppu units/x86_64-linux/dbgrids.ppu units/x86_64-linux/dialogs.ppu units/x86_64-linux/dynamicarray.ppu units/x86_64-linux/dynhasharray.ppu units/x86_64-linux/editbtn.ppu units/x86_64-linux/extctrls.ppu units/x86_64-linux/extdlgs.ppu units/x86_64-linux/extendedstrings.ppu units/x86_64-linux/extgraphics.ppu units/x86_64-linux/filectrl.ppu units/x86_64-linux/forms.ppu units/x86_64-linux/fpcadds.ppu units/x86_64-linux/graphics.ppu units/x86_64-linux/graphtype.ppu units/x86_64-linux/grids.ppu units/x86_64-linux/imglist.ppu units/x86_64- linux/inipropstorage.ppu units/x86_64-linux/interfacebase.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lazlinkedlist.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lclintf.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lclmemmanager.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lclproc.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lclrescache.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lclstrconsts.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lcltype.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lclunicodedata.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lconvencoding.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lmessages.ppu units/x86_64-linux/lresources.ppu units/x86_64-linux/maskedit.ppu units/x86_64-linux/menus.ppu units/x86_64-linux/pairsplitter.ppu units/x86_64-linux/popupnotifier.ppu units/x86_64-linux/postscriptprinter.ppu units/x86_64-linux/printers.ppu units/x86_64-linux/propertystorage.ppu units/x86_64-linux/spin.ppu units/x86_64-linux/stdactns.ppu units/x86_64-linux/stdctrls.ppu units/x86_64-linux/stringhashlist.ppu units/x86_64-linux/textstrings.ppu units/x86_64-linux/toolwin.ppu units/x86_64-linux/utrace.ppu units/x86_64-linux/xmlpropstorage.ppu /tmp/me/lib/lcl/units/x86_64-linux /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/avglvltree.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/chart.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/clistbox.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/dynamicarray.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/dynhasharray.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/extendedstrings.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/fpcadds.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/graphtype.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/lazlinkedlist.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/lconvencoding.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/stringhashlist.ppu': No such file or directory /bin/install: cannot stat 'units/x86_64-linux/textstrings.ppu': No such file or directory

No wonder, these units are not in the lcl, but have been moved to components.

I removed them from the implicit units listed in Makefile.fpc in the LCL dir and regenerated the makefile.

Running make install then proceeds further:

make -C interfaces install
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/lcl/interfaces' make -C gtk2 all
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/lcl/interfaces/gtk2' /bin/rm -f ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/lcl.ppu \ ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/lcl.o
/usr/local/bin/ppcx64 -gl -dgtk2 -Sci -Fu../../units/x86_64-linux -Fu../../../packager/units/x86_64-linux -Fu../../../components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux -Fu.. -Fu. -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/3.3.1/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -Fi. -FE. -FU../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2 -Cg -dx86_64 ../lcl.pas /bin/cp -f Makefile.compiled ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/LCL.compiled make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/lcl/interfaces/gtk2' make -C gtk2 install
make[2]: Entering directory '/home/michael/projects/lazarus-tst/lcl/interfaces/gtk2' /bin/rm -f ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/lcl.ppu \ ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/lcl.o
/usr/local/bin/ppcx64 -gl -dgtk2 -Sci -Fu../../units/x86_64-linux -Fu../../../packager/units/x86_64-linux -Fu../../../components/lazutils/lib/x86_64-linux -Fu.. -Fu. -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/3.3.1/units/x86_64-linux/rtl -Fi. -FE. -FU../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2 -Cg -dx86_64 ../lcl.pas /bin/cp -f Makefile.compiled ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/LCL.compiled /bin/install -m 755 -d /tmp/me/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/x86_64-linux /bin/install -c -m 644 ../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/lcl.pas.ppu /tmp/me/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/x86_64-linux /bin/install: cannot stat '../../units/x86_64-linux/gtk2/lcl.pas.ppu': No such file or directory

Trying to install something which has been explicitly removed 4 commands prior to the install command : no surprise this fails... :-)

After that I have given up and did a

find -name '*.ppu' -exec cp {} /tmp/me/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/x86_64-linux \;
find -name '*.o' -exec cp {} /tmp/me/lib/lazarus/lcl/units/x86_64-linux \;

In short: the makefiles are in dire need of some care :-)

(
before anyone recommends it:
using lazbuild to build our software is not an option, since the sources are not installed on the machines where builds must be done. )

Michael.

That's an internal target.
See "make help".

Sub target "tools" require a compiled nogui lcl.
Just use the main targets.

The makefiles are not supposed to be called in any order. They are merely a bootstrap to get to lazbuild and/or lazarus.

[...] > make basecomponents

Same here.

[...] After some more failed attempts trying to compile "sub-targets", I gave up.

Good.

Am I correct in my understanding that in fact only the "main" targets all, bigide, useride are supposed to work out of the box when you start from a fresh checkout ?

Yes.

Mattias

Well, it turns out that "make useride" also does not work on a fresh checkout. At least, I could no longer get it to work.

see my comment in
https://gitlab.com/freepascal.org/lazarus/lazarus/-/issues/40024

But the point of the 'main targets' is taken, so I filed a feature request in the issue tracker to be able to build the LCL using just the Makefile.

basically, I would like something as

make lcl

to produce the LCL units.

(it can be another 'main' target name if that is needed, obviously)

Michael.

[...] Well, it turns out that "make useride" also does not work on a fresh checkout.

It didn't work when Cleaning is enabled. Fixed.

make registration lazutils lcl

The problem is that make is pretty dumb, so it creates only a rudimentary Makefile.compiled file.
If you use lazbuild or lazarus to compile a project they might decide to recompile the lcl.
It would be safer to compile lazbuild, and then use that to compile the lcl.

Mattias

Slightly better is:

make -J N registration
make -J N lazutils
make -J N lcl

because the order as specified on the command-line is not guaranteed when you do parallel compilation.

Still, it feels strange to me that

make lcl

is not enough, but OK.

The problem is that make is pretty dumb, so it creates only a rudimentary Makefile.compiled file.

Makefile.compiled does not even come into play, see below.

If you use lazbuild or lazarus to compile a project they might decide to recompile the lcl.

That may not happen, because the sources will not be installed on the build machine.

It would be safer to compile lazbuild, and then use that to compile the lcl.

The projects will be compiled with fpc only in a docker environment. The devops people don't want another build tool. Only make. (which is why I wanted to have make install working - but I had to resort to using find and cp manually)

The goal is to have just fpc, its units and the LCL units in compiled form in the docker.

Michael.