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Lazarus Release 2.0.0

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Mattias Gaertner

The Lazarus team is glad to announce the release of Lazarus 2.0.0.

This release was built with FPC 3.0.4.
The previous release Lazarus 1.8.4 was built with FPC 3.0.4 as well.

Here is the list of changes for Lazarus and Free Pascal: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_2.0.0_release_notes http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3.0.4

Here is the list of fixes for Lazarus 2.0.x:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Lazarus_2.0_fixes_branch

The release is available for download on SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/

Choose your CPU, OS, distro and then the "Lazarus 2.0.0" directory.

Checksums for the SourceForge files:
http://www.lazarus-ide.org/index.php?page=checksums#2_0_0

Minimum requirements:

Windows:
2k, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10, 32 or 64bit.

FreeBSD/Linux:
gtk 2.8 for gtk2, qt4.5 for qt, qt5.6 for qt5, 32 or 64bit.

Mac OS X:
10.5 to 10.12; Carbon (32bit), Cocoa (64bit, beta), qt and qt5 (32 or 64bit).

The svn tag is
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags/lazarus_2_0_0

For people who are blocked by SF, the Lazarus releases from SourceForge are mirrored at: ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/lazarus/releases/ and later at (after some time for synchronization) http://mirrors.iwi.me/lazarus/

Mattias

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Fabio Luis Girardi
to duilio foschi

Maybe it's something similar to gtk3 Broadway?

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https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui/ has somebody tried the product above? Can it be a real alternative to web programming? Thank you Peppe Polpo -- _______________________________________________ lazarus mailing list https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus

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Anthony Walter
to Fabio Luis Girardi

IMO the best things about creating and using html + css for web applications is the power of the design. That is, you can easily style the look of a web application to be practically anything, including dead simple animations and transforms. So then using a framework where you have to design the interface by using a non html + css tool, you end up with difficult to stylize user interfaces.

That type of toolchain seems very counter productive to me. I've even say it wastes a lot of time for developers and graphic designers since adding elements and changing styles can be tweaked by anyone on your team purely through built in browser developer tools (F12 on Windows and Linux with most all browsers). If you're going to be dropping in html or css changes, your workflow is going to be more difficult if you're fighting fight with some non html + css layout tools.
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Michael Van Canneyt
to duilio foschi: https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui/ has somebody tried the product above?…
duilio foschi wrote 5 lines
https://www.cybelesoft.com/thinfinity/virtualui/ has somebody tried the product above? Can it be a real alternative to web programming?

Not really. It's basically a remote desktop session in a browser. Some kind of terminal server solution.
How they can claim this is super scalable is beyond me.

I tried once something similar (https://www.awingu.com/), but had to give up. The application was too complex and the setup was too demanding.

And you're still running a desktop app, so no responsiveness, no CSS tricks. With today's variety in devices, it's a dead end IMO.

Michael.

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Luca Olivetti
to Mattias Gaertner: The Lazarus team is glad to announce the release of Lazarus 2.0.0. This release was built…

El 5/2/19 a les 11:48, Mattias Gaertner via lazarus ha escrit:

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The Lazarus team is glad to announce the release of Lazarus 2.0.0. This release was built with FPC 3.0.4. The previous release Lazarus 1.8.4 was built with FPC 3.0.4 as well. Here is the list of changes for Lazarus and Free Pascal: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_2.0.0_release_notes

I found that changing a value of a spinedit by code now triggers the OnChange handler, it didn't happen in 1.8.4 and it isn't listed in the release notes.

Bye

Luca

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Luca Olivetti
to Luca Olivetti

El 14/2/19 a les 8:53, Luca Olivetti via lazarus ha escrit:

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El 5/2/19 a les 11:48, Mattias Gaertner via lazarus ha escrit: > The Lazarus team is glad to announce the release of Lazarus 2.0.0. > > This release was built with FPC 3.0.4. > The previous release Lazarus 1.8.4 was built with FPC 3.0.4 as well. > > Here is the list of changes for Lazarus and Free Pascal: > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_2.0.0_release_notes I found that changing a value of a spinedit by code now triggers the OnChange handler, it didn't happen in 1.8.4 and it isn't listed in the release notes.

Actually it did that even with 1.8.4 but only after FormCreate, i.e., if I change the value in FormCreate it doesn't trigger OnChange, in FormShow and later it does.
2.0 triggers it even during FormCreate.

Bye

Luca

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Michael Schnell
to Anthony Walter: IMO the best things about creating and using html + css for web applications is the power…

There are application that require a „stylish“ GUI for optimum user satisfaction, …. And there are applications that do their thing more or less on their own, requiring human attention only for configuration and service.

-Michael

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Kostas Michalopoulos
to Michael Schnell

The idea is interesting, but the implementation not so. All demos are unusably slow and unless this spawns a VM for each instance, i wouldn't trust any sort of "FS virtualization" they have to not be broken - Win32 desktop APIs were not designed for applications to be isolated from each other. This could make it only usable for intranets, but even then the performance is so abysmal as to severely impact any sort of productivity. And honestly, would you want to be the poor clerk who'd have this sort of crappy responsiveness imposed on them 8h/day?

There might be some very few uses for this, but i'm certain that there are also better solutions for those few uses too (and some would be solved with something like noVNC).

AM Michael Schnell wrote 14 lines
There are application that require a „stylish“ GUI for optimum user satisfaction, …. And there are applications that do their thing more or less on their own, requiring human attention only for configuration and service. -Michael -- _______________________________________________ lazarus mailing list https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus

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