Hello Michael

It seems like your email client is adding "*SPAM*" to the subject of emails coming from lazarus mailing list.
Could you please add to the white list?

Otherwise getting an email with *SPAM* prefix in the subject ruins the whole thread.

I apologize if it's not your email client, but someone else's. But whoever's email client does that, please fix it. Changing thread subject ruins the whole idea of mailing lists.

thanks,
Dmitry
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If your mail client is threading based on the subject, it's broken or misconfigured. My client has no issues with the subject changing.

Henry

Some clients take the subject into account, because in the mists of time messages which originated at or passed through certain (MS?) systems had their headers mangled.

I agree that it would have been appropriate for people to have deleted the <SHOUT>SPAM<UNSHOUT> annotation. But far better would have been avoiding the exhortation "Win 10 IOT Core (no purchase required)" in the first place, which was guaranteed to trip spam filters :-)

Henry Vermaak wrote

If your mail client is threading based on the subject, it's broken or misconfigured. My client has no issues with the subject changing.

I totally agree that gmail.com is totally broken and misconfigured. (no irony, but sorrow)

That's why I'm asking the participant to adjust his email client, rather than doing anything on my end.

thanks,
Dmitry
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Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote

That's why I'm asking the participant to adjust his email client, rather than doing anything on my end.

Well my email client does sort them correct.
Yet I find it (personal opinion) annoying to have a SPAM keyword in those mails.

+1

Yet I find it (personal opinion) annoying to have a SPAM keyword in those mails.

+1

Martin Frb wrote

Well my email client does sort them correct. Yet I find it (personal opinion) annoying to have a SPAM keyword in those mails.

+1

Regards,
- Graeme -

The *SPAM* addition to the subject supposedly is not added by any mail client (at least I am sure that the Thunderbird I am using does not do such a things: it uses tags and folders) but some E-mail transport service.

-Michael

Martin Frb wrote

Well my email client does sort them correct.

I doubt that there is any automatic that can avoid this.:-(

Se everybody should delete that addition from the subject when replying.

-Michael

The point is that it is annoying.
If you don't know how to fix it, then please remove it before you send the mail.

Mattias

Mattias Gaertner wrote

The point is that it is annoying. If you don't know how to fix it, then please remove it before you send the mail.

I am rather sure that it's not added to the thread by my postings. *Everybody* should remove that nonsense before sending.

-Michael

"Michael Schnell" wrote

On 10/26/2015 10:09 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > The point is that it is annoying. If you don't know how to fix it, then

please remove it before you send the mail.

I am rather sure that it's not added to the thread by my postings.

*Everybody* should remove that nonsense before sending.

If you look at this month's archive you'll see that it's only your mails that add this (see here:
http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/2015-October/thread.html ). Your mail today regarding the widgetset initialization added yet another "*SPAM*" for example.

Regards,
Sven
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Sven Barth wrote

If you look at this month's archive you'll see that it's only your mails that add this (see here: http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/2015-October/thread.html ). Your mail today regarding the widgetset initialization added yet another "*SPAM*" for example.

This happens for my mails too.
The email provider GMX can be be configured
to detect SPAM (which is of course very unreliable) and then there are multiple options:
Either I can let GMX move such mails to a special folder or delete them or GMX adds "SPAM Spamverdacht" to the subject line.

The latter is the best for me because I am warned to have a closer look but it does not move mails out of sight. And there are lots of false positive which I would not see otherwise.

Of course, here in the mailing list it is annoying to have the subject line messed up (but "Re" or "Antwort" do that too).

I have to pay more attention to this to remove this addition when replying....

Sven Barth wrote

Your mail today regarding the widgetset initialization added yet another "*SPAM*" for example.

I see. The I answered to already did have the addition. So somebody installed an inappropriate spam filter in the mail infrastructure.

I'll try to take care to manually delete the nonsense before sending.

-Michael

Take a look at the ML archive. The first *SPAM* message that appears is usually from you, but if- when it gets to you- the message you're commenting to is already annotated that suggests that it's being done by your service provider to your incoming (not outgoing) messages.

Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote

but if- when it gets to you- the message you're commenting to is already annotated that suggests that it's being done by your service provider to your incoming (not outgoing) messages.

This obviously is the case. :-)

-Michael (hating these incompetent IT departments)

Michael Schnell wrote

*Everybody* should remove that nonsense before sending.

It is only ever your replies that includes such *SPAM* prefix. So it seems your mail transport service, mail server or email client is adding it - not everybody else's.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote

It is only ever your replies that includes such *SPAM* prefix. So it seems your mail transport service, mail server or email client is adding it - not everybody else's.

Happily I was pointed to a Thunderbird plugin that cleans up the mail subject when answering . So I hope this mess will stop right now.

-Michael