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FreeMan

Hello,
fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64

1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE. Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it.

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This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving.

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Péter Gábor
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It is movable in the fixes main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is resizeable by moving it...

2015-10-11 14:21 keltez?ssel, FreeMan ?rta:

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Hello, fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64 1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE. Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it. 2- This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving. -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
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Péter Gábor
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...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide enough to display all components in a single row on the active page of component palette. Otherwise the editor can go down too much.

Is it possible that the main form is not resizeable manually or anchor docking does something wrong?

2015-10-11 18:01 keltez?ssel, P?ter G?bor ?rta:

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It is movable in the fixes branch at r50025. The main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is resizeable by moving it... 2015-10-11 14:21 keltez?ssel, FreeMan ?rta: > Hello, > fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64 > > 1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under > Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE. > Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually > source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it. > > 2- > This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving. > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >
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Ondrej Pokorny
to Péter Gábor
P?ter G?bor wrote 6 lines
...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide enough to display all components in a single row on the active page of component palette. Otherwise the editor can go down too much. Is it possible that the main form is not resizeable manually or anchor docking does something wrong?

It should not be movable/resizable. If it is so, it's a bug.

If you want to show all components in the component pallette, use Options->Environment->Window->Show complete component palette

Ondrej

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Ondrej Pokorny
to Péter Gábor: ...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide enough to…
P?ter G?bor wrote 6 lines
...The slider is required (to be movable) when the main form is not wide enough to display all components in a single row on the active page of component palette. Otherwise the editor can go down too much. Is it possible that the main form is not resizeable manually or anchor docking does something wrong?

Actually, it's not a bug. There is an option that does it: Options->Environment->Window->Automatically adjust IDE main windows height.

Ondrej

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FreeMan
to Péter Gábor: It is movable in the fixes main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is

I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. of course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one line. This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source line without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main toolbar. This huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1

P?ter G?bor wrote 17 lines
It is movable in the fixes branch at r50025. The main toolbar and component palette (together the main form) is resizeable by moving it... 2015-10-11 14:21 keltez?ssel, FreeMan ?rta: > Hello, > fpc r32000 & lazarus r50023 osx el capitan qtx64 > > 1- Is it possible to add new form for opened windows list, like under > Main menu --> Window. This is so useful if use docking style IDE. > Because all tool window is not stay on top, so when click main (usually > source form) all non docked form(s) go under this and looking for it. > > 2- > This slider not using but always there, no resizing, not moving. >

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Ondrej Pokorny
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FreeMan wrote 6 lines
I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. of course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one line. This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source line without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main toolbar. This huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1

Yes, I do the same. The splitter can be hidden if
"/Options->Environment->Window->Automatically adjust IDE main window height/" is enabled. If the option is disabled, the splitter has to be visible.

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FreeMan
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Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if /"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if /"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize. suggestion: Can add max resize value for heigth.
Thank you
/

Ondrej Pokorny wrote 14 lines
On 11.10.2015 18:52, FreeMan wrote: > I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any > component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. > of course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one > line. This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source > line without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main > toolbar. This huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1 Yes, I do the same. The splitter can be hidden if "/Options->Environment->Window->Automatically adjust IDE main window height/" is enabled. If the option is disabled, the splitter has to be visible. Ondrej

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Ondrej Pokorny
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FreeMan wrote
Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if /"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if /"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize. Thank you/

Sorry. I don't understand you. Was your first suggestion a) "do not show the splitter if it cannot move"
or
b) "make the splitter move, it does nothing"
?

> suggestion: Can add max resize value for heigth.

I myself don't think something like this is needed. Ask Lazarus developers for their meaning and if they think it is a good enhancement, create a patch.

Ondrej/
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FreeMan
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Ondrej Pokorny wrote 7 lines
On 11.10.2015 19:19, FreeMan wrote: > Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if > /"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if > /"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize. > Thank you/ Sorry. I don't understand you. Was your first suggestion a) "do not show the splitter if it cannot move"

Yes

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or b) "make the splitter move, it does nothing" ? >> suggestion: Can add max resize value for heigth. I myself don't think something like this is needed. Ask Lazarus developers for their meaning and if they think it is a good enhancement, create a patch. Ondrej/ /

I'm writing mail list 'cos All lazarus developers read here, for create patch, If I finish my project maybe I can, but I lost enthusiasm Thank you
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Michael Van Canneyt
to FreeMan: I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any component "alt + P"…
FreeMan wrote 6 lines
I hide component palette, I don't need it every time, When I need any component "alt + P" show component search, its much easy and useful. of course for me. And Editor toolbar, add much used menu item on one line. This mean, Much more Source editor area and can see much source line without scroll. For me better then huge unuseful IDE main toolbar. This huge bulky view style similar from delphi 1

I actually like this "old view". The 'Alt-P' method is much slower for me. I even restore the 'old view' in Delphi XE 10.

Preferences vary wildly...

Michael.

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Ondrej Pokorny
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Michael Van Canneyt wrote
I actually like this "old view". The 'Alt-P' method is much slower for me. I even restore the 'old view' in Delphi XE 10.

Freeman's suggestions would not change anything about your settings. It is irrelevant if the component palette is visible or not for the splitter visibility.

Btw. it's not "Delphi XE 10" but "Delphi 10". The 10 is the new product-line name - it replaced the XE product-line :) Yes, their marketing office was over-creative and almost nobody understands it :) So nice we have Lazarus 1.x.x!

Ondrej

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Michael Van Canneyt
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Ondrej Pokorny wrote 8 lines
On 12.10.2015 09:37, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > I actually like this "old view". The 'Alt-P' method is much slower for me. > I even restore the 'old view' in Delphi XE 10. Freeman's suggestions would not change anything about your settings. It is irrelevant if the component palette is visible or not for the splitter visibility.

I know. I just wanted to point out that preferences differ.

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Btw. it's not "Delphi XE 10" but "Delphi 10". The 10 is the new product-line name - it replaced the XE product-line :) Yes, their marketing office was over-creative and almost nobody understands it :) So nice we have Lazarus 1.x.x!

It's in fact "Delphi 10 Seattle".

But with the sale of Embarcadero to Idera, maybe the name will change again;
I have no idea.

Michael.

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FreeMan
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Michael Van Canneyt wrote 13 lines
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 12.10.2015 09:37, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> >> I actually like this "old view". The 'Alt-P' method is much slower >> for me. I even restore the 'old view' in Delphi XE 10. > > Freeman's suggestions would not change anything about your settings. > It is irrelevant if the component palette is visible or not for the > splitter visibility. I know. I just wanted to point out that preferences differ.

All person is unique, we have NOT fill, think etc. has to same. So I wrote "for me" :) My suggestion was if I can not resize why I show it, it can be hide, thats all, and this is not much importent . Other ones can be useful maybe

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> > Btw. it's not "Delphi XE 10" but "Delphi 10". The 10 is the new > product-line name - it replaced the XE product-line :) Yes, their > marketing office was over-creative and almost nobody understands it > :) So nice we have Lazarus 1.x.x! It's in fact "Delphi 10 Seattle". But with the sale of Embarcadero to Idera, maybe the name will change again; I have no idea. Michael.

I saw this in forum, and I shared it in my forum as well. one membership asked good question, did any body see this on embarcadero?

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Ondrej Pokorny
to FreeMan: Yes I'm writing mail list 'cos All lazarus developers read here, for create patch, If I…
FreeMan wrote 9 lines
On 11.10.2015 20:31, Ondrej Pokorny wrote: > On 11.10.2015 19:19, FreeMan wrote: >> Ondrej, Visible always True, just resizing or not. I mean, if >> /"Environment" option checked, not resize but visible True. /if >> /"Environment" option NOT checked, visible True and resize. >> Thank you/ > Sorry. I don't understand you. Was your first suggestion > a) "do not show the splitter if it cannot move" Yes

A patch is welcome!

Ondrej
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