Hi,

I made a new theme for Lazarus code editor and it made on Solarized[1]?color pallet and thought maybe others like it,Its clean and kind with eyes.

When I wanted to write this email find out there is a?Solarized theme already but I think my version is more complete and better. I haven't any host to link it to the wiki so I will attach it here.

Test it ;)

Regards, Ara

Links:

1. http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized

Thank you,
https://theroadtodelphi.wordpress.com/delphi-ide-theme-editor/ look at the Download paragraph, will see nearly 2300 for lazarus IDE theme editor.

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Yes Im familiar with it from Delphi times but Im too lazy to download it and I wanted to make it my self and make it complete.

Regards, Ara

aradeonas wrote

Yes Im familiar with it from Delphi times but Im too lazy to download it and I wanted to make it my self and make it complete.

I must agree that your theme is very complete, better than the 20+ other 'solarized' themes I found on that site.

Thank you.

Michael.

It goof to have your agreemnet Michael ;) . if you like night version I can make it too.
It may be useful for others if any one of team members can upload this them on freepascal host so I can link it to wiki.

Regards,
Ara

aradeonas wrote

It goof to have your agreemnet Michael ;) . if you like night version I can make it too.

Please do :)

It may be useful for others if any one of team members can upload this them on freepascal host so I can link it to wiki.

Done.
ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/contrib/lazarus/Solarized2.xml

Michael.

aradeonas wrote

It goof to have your agreemnet Michael ;) . if you like night version I can make it too.

A couple months back I made yet another Solarized theme - I only found out about Solarized then. I didn't like the ones included in the Laz Theme Pack. I started with the Dark Theme and kept to the exact colors mentioned in the solarized theme. I then proceeded to make the light theme, and as per the Soralized spec, I simply needed to switch the background color, and the light theme worked perfectly.

There was so many solarized themes already, I didn't bother sharing mine, but if anybody is interested, I'll make it available of course.

Screenshots attached of my Dark and Light theme. Note, I only applied the theme for the Object Pascal file format, not for XML, TXT etc.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Done.?ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/contrib/lazarus/Solarized2.xml

Thank you.

Believe it or not?Graeme I guessed you may done this before!I dont know why but you always do cool things ;) About theme I tried to make it complete and some change that not included i main Solorized pallet for better understanding in Lazarus. Do you know Lazarus is theme support or not?IDE it self not code editor.

Regards, Ara

aradeonas wrote

About theme I tried to make it complete and some change that not included i main Solorized pallet for better understanding in Lazarus.

Yup, I know what you mean. I studied many of the officially included Soralized themes from their repository. I always kept to the exact color values suggested, and tried to find good choices for what colors to use for what parts of the Object Pascal syntax, and kept referring back to the solarized spec to confirm. I then kept switching between dark and light themes to makes sure all is still well and I have a consistent contrast.

I've always used my own dark theme, but I must admit, the Soralized theme is well thought out. I have a mobile office, so sometimes I work in bright rooms, and then being able to switch to the light theme definitely helps with readability and contrast on the screen. But in normal office light, I'm always back to the dark theme. :)

Do you know Lazarus is theme support or not?IDE it self not code editor.

The IDE, like all of LCL adheres to the theme defined by the toolkit (or desktop environment). You can't specify a different theme for the IDE only, and not for the rest of your desktop environment. Now if somebody would only finish the lcl-fpgui widgetset, then that would be possible. ;-)

Regards,
- Graeme -

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote

Screenshots attached of my Dark and Light theme. Note, I only applied the theme for the Object Pascal file format, not for XML, TXT etc.

In case anybody was interested, here is my Dark and Light versions of
the Solarized theme.

Regards,
- Graeme -

So when I finished night version I will let you know so you can check it and tell me what you think.

About theme teams like AlphaSkin's team can do a very good work here,they have years of experience in this field.

Regards, Ara

aradeonas wrote

About theme teams like AlphaSkin's team can do a very good work here,they have years of experience in this field.

Problem is, LCL doesn't support per-application theming - something that is done more and more these days. An issue with LCL I mentioned back in 2005/6 already.

As for AlphaSkins, I didn't know about that website. It is VCL only, but still impressive. Speaking as somebody that has tried to implement a couple of application themes with fpGUI, it is definitely not as easy as it looks. You need a good artistic eye and design skills.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Problem is, LCL doesn't support per-application theming - something that is done more and more these days. An issue with LCL I mentioned back in 2005/6 already.

Yes I understand you,I have problem with making graphical app or new look from day 1.

As for AlphaSkins, I didn't know about that website. It is VCL only, but still impressive. Speaking as somebody that has tried to implement a couple of application themes with fpGUI, it is definitely not as easy as it looks. You need a good artistic eye and design skills.

Yes,AlphaSkin and DevExpress have good themeing system. fpGUI also is hard for me to make a beautiful app as they are live in new world,standard app or custom app yes its easy but its hard to make something like for example web or MacOS apps.

Regards,
Ara

Michael here you are day and night version in wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/UserSuppliedSchemeSettings#Color_schemes Please take a look and tell me what you think.

Also you dear Graeme ,please test them ,maybe you like them.

Regards, Ara

aradeonas wrote

fpGUI also is hard for me to make a beautiful app as they are live in new world,standard app or custom app yes its easy but its hard to make something like for example web or MacOS apps.

I've learned a hard lesson in my previous job. Don't ask a developer to design a beautiful application. That is the job of a designer. The developer then makes that design a reality via code. Once I started using the talent of our in-house designers, then only did our apps became beautiful. We used fpGUI Toolkit for our apps.

The exact same thing applies to websites. You let the designer come up with the design, then hand that over to a web developer to make it a reality.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Yes I am agree with you but my problem is when designer give me a design I cant make it with Lazarus or fpGUI or others. I could make it with web tools but not Lazarus,because I haven't any demo to learn,yes there are some demos but they are much simpler and take me times to learn them then maybe or maybe not they can do what designer want.

Regards,
Ara

aradeonas wrote

Yes I am agree with you but my problem is when designer give me a design I cant make it with Lazarus or fpGUI or others.

I can only comment on fpGUI - I have managed to duplicate all the designs given to me by the designer. fpGUI is custom-drawn as you probably know, so you can do pretty much anything with it. And now that fpGUI uses AggPas as the default rendering backend, the graphic possibilities are even better.

Regards,
- Graeme -

aradeonas wrote

Michael here you are day and night version in wiki page: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/UserSuppliedSchemeSettings#Color_schemes Please take a look and tell me what you think.

Why did you change multiple colors (keywords etc)? As far as I can read on http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized, only 4 colors must be changed ?

If I look at the Java/python/shell Day/Night version on http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized, just the background and selection colors change, but keyword etc. does not change.

Michael.

Why did you change multiple colors (keywords etc)?

As far as I can read on http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized, only 4 colors must be changed ?

If I look at the Java/python/shell Day/Night version on http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized, just the background and selection colors change, but keyword etc. does not change.

Yes you are right,I changed them because I wanted to use one family of color to be main color because it seems more comfortable to my eyes like blue keywords in dark blue background and green-yellow keywords in yellow- orange background.also I saw this in other editor like Atom and when I tried them it seems right to me.Because of that I changed the name to Solorized2 to show the difference and point it out in the wiki.

But if you want or use them I can make a?Solorized-standard theme.

Regards, Ara

If it is not too much to ask. I don't want to intrude, you're doing a lot as it is... (I myself am horrible with colors and GUI...)

Michael.

stupid question time:

i've looked about trying to figure out how to use themes in the IDE but many resources are talking about theming a project in the project options... that's not what we're after...

i did finally find something about a userschemes directory that should be in the pcp directory so i created it and placed the two xml files in there in their own directory like they are in the archive...

~/development/config_lazarus
~/development/config_lazarus/userschemes
~/development/config_lazarus/userschemes/solarized_graemeg ~/development/config_lazarus/userschemes/solarized_graemeg/solarized_dark.xml ~/development/config_lazarus/userschemes/solarized_graemeg/solarized_light.xml

the problem now is where in the IDE settings do i find the option to select one of these xml color theme files?? i've looked in
tools->options->editor->display->colors and not seen anything obvious... i'm using v1.5 of lazarus from trunk...

Lazarus 1.5 r49324M FPC 3.1.1 x86_64-linux-gtk 2

If it is not too much to ask.

Not even near,pleasure is mine to help some one like you a little. Here you are , check the wiki for standard versions.
wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/UserSuppliedSchemeSettings#Color_schemes

Regards, Ara

When you use Trunk version you should put it in patch like this:

~/development/config_lazarus/userschemes

And for a stable version in :

C:\Users\{User}\AppData\Local\lazarus\userschemes

Dont put them in sub folder or something else.

Regards,
Ara

Top of that dialog, dropdown next to language dropdown.

See attached screenshot.

Michael.
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Great !!

It's slighlty better than the day version.
I have worked with the day version all day now:
In the day version the difference between "current line" and "selected text" is too small, they are difficult to distinguish. But in the night version it is much better. Maybe you can change the day version to make the difference between the 2 a bit more clear.

Great work, in each case !

Michael.

ok... no subfolder... that helps :)

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, waldo kitty wrote:

[...]

i did actually look in there...

See attached screenshot.

that helps greatly... something else is that the new theme files have to be in place before loading the IDE... closing the configurator and reopening it doesn't cause it to rescan for new directories or options like this...

in the end, i do now have a few new themes... thanks!

my installation is built from fpcup... it uses a special directory for its fpc and lazarus installation... i was able to figure out the pcp though... the real clue is that these xml files cannot be inside a subdirectory in userschemes...

yes, it does help... thanks to the three of you who responded to my plea :)

Maybe you can change the day version to make the difference between the 2 a bit more clear.

I did,check the wiki.

Problem seems Solarized it self doesn't support three base color for background,current and selected and most of the editors as I saw dont have a current line in text,just in gutter and difference there is small.

Great work, in each case !

Im happy to see you happy ;)

Regards, Ara

waldo kitty wrote

the new theme files have to be in place before loading the IDE... closing the configurator and reopening it doesn't cause it to rescan for new directories or options like this...

Very true, and I noticed that too. If you have the time, please add it to Mantis as feature request.

Regards,
- Graeme -

aradeonas wrote

Problem seems Solarized it self doesn't support three base color for background,current and selected and most of the editors as I saw dont have a current line in text,just in gutter and difference there is small.

Yeah, I remember noticing that one too. I did however find other editors that is similar to Lazarus. Attached is a screenshot of what I done. If I remember correctly, I simply played with the opacity of the selection background color, and used that for the current line. I didn't want it to attract too much attention, but still be visible enough.

ps:
I also modified my synedit to paint the current line number a different color. Been doing this one for years. :) So the currently line color inside the code area isn't too important for me.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Thank you for sharing Graeme.I done the same.

Regards,
Ara

done! http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=28367

aradeonas wrote

Maybe you can change the day version to make the difference between the 2 a bit more clear. ? I did,check the wiki.

It is much better, thank you very much for all your efforts !

I can recommend these 2 themes to everyone. I regret I didn't know about them before :)

Michael.

Michael if you want any other change or what every just let me know.

Regards,
Ara

them before :)

Michael. --

It would be nice to add these two themes to Lazarus svn trunk.

Thank you in advance.

Sandro
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It would be nice to add these two themes to Lazarus svn trunk.

Yes it would if it possible because Im sure many ones don't know they have options like this like me until I made it and then I find wiki page!

Ara

I just update tree schemes for better?Syncron Edit support.

Ara