Hi all,

Just found this: http://www.vcljs.com

Is it possible to use it as --say-- LCL for the web?

Regards,

Hi all,

Just found this: http://www.vcljs.com

Is it possible to use it as LCL for the web?

Regards,

Bee wrote

Hi all, Just found this:?http://www.vcljs.com Is it possible to use it as LCL for the web?

I would not recommend it. It's typescript, not javascript. Typescript is an M$ experiment. You need visual studio for it to work. (conceivably it can be used without VS, but it is an additional hurdle).

There are many javascript "widgetsets" out there that can be used as "VCL for the web": React, ExtJS, Angular, Jquery UI etc. Focusing on one is not the right approach IMHO. Not to mention that they all evolve at breathtaking speed, and what is current today is no longer current next year.

Michael.

Yes Im agree with Michael . VLC is here for years but JS libraries are young and die young.
But some of theme like React are new but attract enough attention to work something on.

Regards,
Ara

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

There are many javascript "widgetsets" out there that can be used as "VCL for the web": React, ExtJS, Angular, Jquery UI etc.

Any recommendation for one of those to create a server-based application featuring a web-based remote GUI that is supposed to not very complex, but "active" (i.e. sowing internal states of the server based application by a kind of "reverse event".

I only know EXTJS (in the "EXTPASCAL" incarnation) to have had (at some time in the past) an at least exceptionally working link top fpc/Lazarus.

-Michael

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Michael Van Canneyt <

TypeScript outputs JavaScript, right? Is it possible to use the JS directly?

Supporting one of many JS libraries doesn't mean only focusing on one and only that. Consider it like desktop widgetset, there are GDI, QT, GTK, Cocoa, etc. I just found another alternative. Its advantage is similar object model to VCL, so perhaps it might attract someone out here to create a new web-widget project. :)

I have no idea.
I dropped the idea of Typescript as soon as I saw that you need Visual Studio to be able to handle it halfway decent. The new features in upcoming releases of Javascript should remove the need for Typescript anyway...

All correct.
But then I'd prefer to start with a widely supported one, and not an obscure one that is designed for VS. Just a matter of preference.

Michael.

They all operate more or less on the same principle concerning servers. I know none that works with websockets.

I only know EXTJS (in the "EXTPASCAL" incarnation) to have had (at some time in the past) an at least exceptionally working link top fpc/Lazarus.

We use ExtJS at work, but are switching to Angular. Neither of them can be used using FPC/Lazarus classes to generate Javascript. (though there is Raudus, but that's not very scalable)

Michael.

2015-06-30 5:44 GMT-03:00 Michael Van Canneyt :

Yes. TypeScript outputs JavaScript.
Is it possible to use the JS directly in VCLJS? -> I dont know

I have no idea. I dropped the idea of Typescript as soon as I saw that you need Visual Studio to be able to handle it halfway decent.

I dont use TypeScript today and dont have plans to use it, but is gaining traction in the JS landscape. The next version of Angular (the most popular JS framework) will be written in TypeScript.

Regarding IDE support WebStorm has native support. Other editors like Sublime or Atom have plugins for it.

The new features in upcoming releases of Javascript should remove the need for Typescript anyway...

TypeScript is a superset of ECMAScript2015, which as TypeScript also needs a transpiler like Babel

BTW: not impressed by VCL.JS

Luiz
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2015-06-30 6:07 GMT-03:00 Michael Van Canneyt :

We use ExtJS at work, but are switching to Angular.

If you want to go with Angular in the long run you will need to use TypeScript.

http://www.itworld.com/article/2894936/googles-angular-2-being-built-with-microsofts-typescript.html

Unless you stay in 1.x and all it's problems

https://javascriptkicks.com/articles/2657/i-wont-be-using-angular-for-my-next-project-and-neither-should-you https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9325501

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8830640

Luiz
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http://smartmobilestudio.com/feature-matrix/

That's really bad news :(

Well, we're not that far yet, there is still time to reconsider.

Michael.