Is it possible add parameter for hide verbose ".... not used" hint I don't need see every build, a lot off sender not used info on terminal. --quiet parameter not hide this hints.
Thank you.

FreeMan wrote

Is it possible add parameter for hide verbose ".... not used" hint I don't need see every build, a lot off sender not used info on terminal. --quiet parameter not hide this hints.

Hide these hints by setting the options in the Verbosity section of the compiler options. You can make a quiet build mode and use --build-mode to select it from the command line. I have a noisy debug mode and a quiet release mode, for example.

What annoys me is the "TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfCurPkgOutDirNeedsCompile" messages, despite the --quiet option passed.

Henry

Henry Vermaak wrote

Hide these hints by setting the options in the Verbosity section of the compiler options. You can make a quiet build mode and use --build-mode to select it from the command line. I have a noisy debug mode and a quiet release mode, for example.

Sorry Henry, But I didn't understand clearly. I'm talk about in command line, parameter of lazbuild. This is my commandline,

./lazbuild --pcp=/Users/freeman/.lazarus _*--quiet*_ --build-all --skip-dependencies --build-ide= --ws=qt--cpu=x86_64

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Yes, this is to tell _lazbuild_ to be quiet (which it doesn't obey properly, either). The hints you are talking about is coming from the _compiler_, so you have to change the compiler options to silence the warnings.

Henry

Henry Vermaak wrote

What annoys me is the "TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfCurPkgOutDirNeedsCompile" messages, despite the --quiet option passed.

And "TFPCTargetConfigCache..." and "RunTool..." and "TProject.DoLoadStateFile...". You can't see the wood from the trees when you build from the command line.

Henry

make -s clean .......
this my compiler make command line.

FreeMan wrote

make -s clean ....... this my compiler make command line.

Eh? You're using lazbuild, why are you talking about make?

If you are building lazarus with lazbuild, you can add compiler options, under Tools->Configure "Build Lazarus", see "Options". Add the options for the build mode that you're using.

Henry

What annoys me is that if there's a problem in the IDE it can be difficult (verging on impossible) to construct a consistent set of configuration files that Lazbuild can subsequently use.

There is an important problem in Lazarus compilations :

Assume some units only include source files in their interface parts having record types ( i.e. , there is no any declaration statement within unit source and no any entries in their implementation parts ) .

Other units include source files containing procedures and use type declaration units .

If a modification is performed in one of the procedure sources , Lazarus is detecting it and compiling that unit .

BUT

If a new record element is added to one of the records , it is NOT detecting that change and it is using the old compiled .ppu and .o for this type definition source file included unit with a subsequent error message that the newly added element is NOT defined in the respective record .

I am using a batch or shell script file to erase all of the .ppu and .o files before starting the compilation .

Selecting "Build" from Lazarus "Run" menu is starting to build Lazarus itself which is NOT possible because Lazarus is owned by the "root" .

Using -B option seems that it is NOT effective when there are existing .ppu and .o files .

Then the only way is to "clean" existing .ppu or .o files in a selected way .

I do not know why

make -s clean

is used , but implication is that deletion of existing .ppu and .o files are required before starting to compilation .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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That sounds more like a FPC bug than Lazarus. Lazarus only checks file dates. If a change is in interface or implementation doesn't matter. Or maybe I misunderstand?

I'm not sure what you mean 'build Lazarus itself' and 'Lazarus is owned by the "root"'.
Can you give more details?

Using -B option seems that it is NOT effective when there are existing .ppu and .o files .

Do you mean lazbuild -B or fpc -B?

-s Silent operation; do not print the commands as they are executed.

is used , but implication is that deletion of existing .ppu and .o files are required before starting to compilation .

'make clean' in Lazarus source directory deletes .ppu and .o files of IDE, lazbuild and bigide components. This is useful, when a source file was removed from a package.

Mattias

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mattias Gaertner <

Units supplied by the Lazarus , i.e. , when Lazarus is installed by the "root" , such as

/usr/lib64/lazarus/

which its owner is "root" .

When "Build" is selected from the "Run" menu of Lazarus , it should NOT include building of units installed by the Lazarus , but units of the user program .

There is a menu item in "Tools" about building the Lazarus itself .

In one of the fields of the Lazarus menus , ( I could not find it now ) I have set -B option to force the compilation in "Build" mode instead of "Make" mode to make it to recognize record element changes : When Lazarus is starting to compile in GUI mode , it is displaying "options changed , ... -B ..."
but it is not taken into consideration the record type changes mentioned above .

I am not using -B option in lazbuild command line statement because I am assuming that .lpi file contains such an option .

I am not using fpc directly to compile the programs : Either by Lazarus GUI or lazbuild through scripts without -B option in the command line with the assumption that it is specified in .lpi file .

Actually , in "Make" mode such changes should be detected .

Deleting .ppu and .o files is causing a compile time more than 17 minutes for me instead of a shorter compilation time .

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[...] What annoys me is the "TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfCurPkgOutDirNeedsCompile" messages, despite the --quiet option passed.

Fixed in trunk.
I also reduced the default verbosity level of lazbuild.

Mattias

It works here.
Can you give an example?

Mattias

Ok. So /usr/lib64/lazarus/ is readable by normal users, but not writable. This is normal when you installed for example a deb or rpm package.
The deb/rpm packages install ppu files compiled with a specific Widgetset and some default compiler options.

When "Build" is selected from the "Run" menu of Lazarus , it should NOT include building of units installed by the Lazarus , but units of the user program .

A project can effect the compiler parameters of its packages. For example when you change the widgetset of the project to 'qt'. Or when you add a parameter to 'Configure Build Lazarus'.
You can see what and why packages will be rebuilt in View / IDE Internals / What needs building.
You can see why a package was rebuilt by selecting the message 'Compile package FooBar', then right click / About / About Compile Package FooBar.

Probably you know, but just making sure: The -B option tells the compiler to recompile every unit, which has a source. Even if the sources have not changed. So basically all units of the project, but no unit of the packages.
Lazarus automatically appends -B when the compiler parameter changes.

When Lazarus is starting to compile in GUI mode , it is displaying "options changed , ... -B ..." but it is not taken into consideration the record type changes mentioned above .

Are the altered units in the project or in a package?

17 minutes? Even the 3+ millions lines of FPC and Lazarus normally only takes a few minutes on a recent machine.

Mattias

Fantastic, thanks!

Henry

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Mattias Gaertner <

Altered units are in a project ( I never use any "package" ) , not loaded into Lazarus GUI , but their directories are defined .

Yes : Seventeen minutes ( without debug related additions ) .

Processor : Intel i5-3470 , Quad-core . 3.2 GigaHerz

Alongside the ( NOT detecting record element additions / changes /deletions ) , another very important problem for me is to

( Discontinuation of compilation on errors )

although in an item "Display error messages up to 1 000 000 ( million )" is selected .

This number is NOT taken into consideration , and it is stopping compilation at the end of a unit or after a small number ( around 50 ) .

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Then I have no clue how to reproduce this. You have to create an example. Is there already a bug report?

How big is that project?

For me FPC is so fast, that I never needed that feature. Please create a bug report.

Mattias

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Mattias Gaertner <

I do not remember , but many years ago I have entered some bug reports . I have discontinued to enter any bug reports because some one has complained about so much bug reports .

My program writing style is very different from existing conventions . The line count is not so much similar to Lazarus . There are more than 700 units and more than 11000 procedures , each procedure in a different source file , and approximately each record in a different file ( around 4000 ) .

It is NOT possible , because I am NO a subscriber of Free Pascal mailing lists .

Actually I am working toward converting my program to C , and in parallel , I am trying to write a Pascal compiler from scratch by using

http://www.standardpascal.org/p5.html
( The P5 compiler )

as a seed .

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The compiler simply stops after N errors or at the end of the unit that contains errors. There is nothing you can do about this.

Michael.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Mattias Gaertner <

My set up is like the following :

(1)

/dir_one/dir_two/type_source.pas

contains :

type numbers = record

     k : Integer ;
     end ;

(2)

/dir_three/dir_four/type_unit.pas

contains :

unit type_unit ;
interface
{$I /dir_one/dir_two/type_source.pas }
implementation

end .

(3)

/dir_three/dir_four/source_unit.pas

contains :

unit source_unit ;
uses type_unit ;
interface
implementation
{$I /dir_one/dir_five/compute_source.pas }

end .

(4)

/dir_one/dir_five/compute_source.pas

contains :

procedure compute ;
var V : type_unit . Numbers ;
begin
  v . k := 0 ;
end ;

(5)

There is a program in

/dir_six/dir_seven/computer.lpi

through its local units ,
one of the units

uses source_unit ;

and a procedure uses

   ...
   compute ;
   ...

and computer.lpi is compiled and executed succeefully .

All of the compiled units are stored into

/dir_eight/dir_nine/

(6)

Assume that a new element is included into record Numbers as

  m : Integer ;

(7)

A new statement included into

procedure compute as

  v . m := 0 ;

(8)

Computer.lpi is compiled in "Make" mode :

error is like

v . m : Undefined element

because type_unit is NOT compiled , but existing .ppu and .o is used .

(9)

During compilation with Lazarus , only

Computer.lpr

is loaded , and NO any other parts .

As a summary :

/dir_one/dir_two/type_source.pas
/dir_one/dir_five/compute_source.pas

/dir_three/dir_four/type_unit.pas
/dir_three/dir_four/source_unit.pas

/dir_six/dir_seven/computer.lpi

/dir_eight/dir_nine/ : Compiled units

At present , all of the directories are relative as ../ ... but , when directories are absolute , the same error is displayed .

This situation is persisting at least since around 2007 .

( I do not remember which subject , during entering a bug report , the ( only report page ) is disappeared from my browser and it could not be possible re_enter any more anything into that page . This was my last bug report attempt )

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in osx yosemite

./lazbuild --quiet -> hints still showing billion "sender not used" massage. Not counting line but with --quit parameter or without this parameter not change output lines

if not add "--max-process-count=8" parameter,
show this line, and freezing. only one line
SetPrimaryConfigPath NewValue="/Users/freeman35/.lazarus" -> "/Users/freeman35/.lazarus"

after add, in 1min 29 second ide builded.many 3party components added. this is so fast on my system, nearly 50% faster then before added this parameter.

What did you add to your compiler options inside the "Configure Build Lazarus..." window?

if not add "--max-process-count=8" parameter, show this line, and freezing. only one line SetPrimaryConfigPath NewValue="/Users/freeman35/.lazarus" -> "/Users/freeman35/.lazarus"

It freezes for me, too.

Henry

As already mentioned --quiet only makes lazbuild quiet. It still writes all output of the compiler.
If you don't want any output use ./lazbuild options > /dev/null. This will still write stderr (e.g. ld and fpcres use that).

if not add "--max-process-count=8" parameter, show this line, and freezing. only one line SetPrimaryConfigPath NewValue="/Users/freeman35/.lazarus" -> "/Users/freeman35/.lazarus"

FreeMan, English requires subjects and objects.

For example, this is my guess what you mean:
If [I do] not add "--max-process-count=8" parameter, [lazbuild] shows this line and freezes. Only [this] one line:
SetPrimaryConfigPath NewValue="/Users/freeman35/.lazarus" -> "/Users/freeman35/.lazarus"

after add, in 1min 29 second ide builded.many 3party components added. this is so fast on my system, nearly 50% faster then before added this parameter.

Does it freeze without --quiet? What is the output without --quiet?

Mattias

[...] It freezes for me, too.

It freezes only with --quiet?

Mattias

lcl widget type= qt Target OS : Darwin Target CPU: x86_64 no options

Without --quiet:

hcv at technical09:~/source/lazarus$ ./lazbuild --verbose --verbose --build-ide= Parameter: build-ide=
Hint: (lazarus) primary config path: /home/hcv/.lazarus Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTarget] OS=linux CPU=i386 CompQueryOptions= DefaultOS=linux DefaultCPU=i386 Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTarget] Old=i386-linux-gtk2 New=i386-linux-gtk2 FPC=True LCL=False Hint: (lazarus) Building Lazarus IDE with profile "Build All" Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTargetIDE] OS= CPU= WS=gtk2 Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTarget] OS=linux CPU=i386 CompQueryOptions= DefaultOS=linux DefaultCPU=i386 Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.SetBuildTarget] Old=i386-linux-gtk2 New=i386-linux-gtk2 FPC=True LCL=False Hint: (lazarus) Missing state file of ...
...more missing state file lines..
Hint: (lazarus) TBuildManager.MacroFuncInstantFPCCache /usr/local/bin/instantfpc RunTool /usr/local/bin/instantfpc "--get-cache"
Hint: (lazarus) [TBuildManager.MacroFuncInstantFPCCache] /home/hcv/.cache/instantfpc/

It just sits there and I have to ctrl-c to get out. If I add --max-process-count=9 it works nicely.

Henry

FreeMan wrote

lcl widget type= qt Target OS : Darwin Target CPU: x86_64 no options

Well, what do you expect then? Try to add -vh- -vn- if you don't want to see hints or notes.

Henry

Mattias Gaertner wrote

FreeMan, English requires subjects and objects.

I wrote before, I'm not english and I'm not from english colony. I'm using dictionary. And I'm not teenage, I can not learn quickly after 46 years old sorry.

Only [this] one line: with or without --quite parameter. same result. SetPrimaryConfigPath NewValue="/Users/freeman35/.lazarus" -> "/Users/freeman35/.lazarus"

These options don't get passed to the packages, so you'll still see messages. I don't know if there's a way to pass the options along to the packages, too.

Henry

what is last the max process count ?
my test results:

--max-process-count=1 -> 3minutes, 1 seconds
--max-process-count=8 -> 1minutes 29 seconds
--max-process-count=12 -> 1minutes 31 seconds
--max-process-count=16 -> 1minutes 29 seconds

Henry Vermaak wrote

It just sits there and I have to ctrl-c to get out. If I add --max-process-count=9 it works nicely.

Thank you Henry, but nothing change on command line result, after add -vh -vn in "options:"

Henry Vermaak wrote

Well, what do you expect then? Try to add -vh- -vn- if you don't want to see hints or notes. Henry

FreeMan wrote

Thank you Henry, but nothing change on command line result, after add -vh -vn in "options:"

It adds it only to the IDE build command line. For instance, I use "-O2 -g- -Xs -vn-h-i- -l-" to build an optimised IDE and this is what I see after all the packages are built:

/usr/bin/make --assume-new=lazarus.pp lazarus OPT=' -O2 -g- -Xs -vn-h-i- -l- @/home/hcv/.lazarus/idemake.cfg -vbq -FU/home/hcv/source/lazarus/units/i386-linux/gtk2' make[2]: Entering directory `/home/hcv/source/lazarus/ide' /usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/ppc386 -gl -vbqewnhi -Sci -dlclgtk2 -Fu../designer -Fu../debugger -Fu../debugger/frames -Fu../converter -Fu../packager -Fu../packager/frames -Fu../components/custom -Fuframes -Fu. -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/units/i386-linux/rtl -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/units/i386-linux/paszlib -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/units/i386-linux/fcl-process -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/units/i386-linux/h ash -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/units/i386-linux/fpmkunit -Fu/usr/local/lib/fpc/2.6.4/units/i386-linux/regexpr -Fiinclude -Fiinclude/linux -Fi../images -FE.. -FU../units/i386-linux/gtk2 -Fl/usr/lib/gcc/i48 6-linux-gnu/4.7 -Flinclude -Fl/etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf -O2 -g- -Xs -vn-h-i- -l- @/home/hcv/.lazarus/idemake.cfg -vbq -FU/home/hcv/source/lazarus/units/i386-linux/gtk2 -di386 lazarus.pp /home/hcv/source/lazarus/ide/keymapping.pp(3588,43) Warning: (4056) Conversion between ordinals and pointers is not portable /home/hcv/source/lazarus/ide/keymapping.pp(3625,43) Warning: (4056) Conversion between ordinals and pointers is not portable /home/hcv/source/lazarus/debugger/processdebugger.pp(110,92) Warning: (5043) Symbol "CommandLine" is deprecated /home/hcv/source/lazarus/packager/pkglinksdlg.pas(276,19) Warning: (6018) unreachable code /home/hcv/source/lazarus/ide/./frames/project_misc_options.pas(101,43) Warning: (6018) unreachable code /usr/bin/ld: warning: ../link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T? make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/hcv/source/lazarus/ide' make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/hcv/source/lazarus/ide' make: Leaving directory `/home/hcv/source/lazarus'

Most here aren't native English speakers. We are used to wrong English. But there is a difference between using English wrong, and not writing add more subjects and objects. Otherwise your
sentences are ambiguous.

Mattias

How to pass options to all packages:

http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_Compiler_Options#Add_a_flag_to_project_and_all_packages

Mattias

-dUSE_QT_45 -g -gl -vn-h-i-
this is my OPT parameter been now. I added your suggestion "-vn-h-i-" I talked about this. But lazbuild not get this parameters :( so lazbuild print many hints
Thank you Henry

Henry Vermaak wrote

It adds it only to the IDE build command line. For instance, I use "-O2 -g- -Xs -vn-h-i- -l-" to build an optimised IDE and this is what I see after all the packages are built:

I'm building the IDE, though, and the options I add in the "Configure Build Lazarus" dialog don't get passed to packages. It would be good to shut up e.g. the hints and notes when packages get built, too.

Henry

See the hint about "Stored in IDE".
I added a screen shot to make it more clear.

Mattias

Mattias Gaertner wrote

Please add more subjects and objects. Otherwise your sentences are ambiguous.

Just to make in clear for non-native English speakers

Definition of AMBIGUOUS [am?big?u?ous]
capable of being understood in two or more possible senses or ways

Regards,
Graeme

I did it and tested in lazarus r48432

Set custom option "-vn-h-i-" then move this line to "Store in IDE" in command line result not changed, I mean :
before ending lazbuild job, last hints, (I'm not count all messages) opt/lazarus/ide/main.pp(485,37) Hint: (5024) Parameter "Sender" not used this line 240 times printing continuesly.

Fixed.

Mattias

[...] It just sits there and I have to ctrl-c to get out. If I add --max-process-count=9 it works nicely.

Fixed.

Mattias

Tested lazarus r48448 osx yosemite qtx64
make --quiet OPT = -k'-framework' -k'ApplicationServices' -dUSE_QT_45 -g -gl -vn-h-i-
and
./lazbuild --quiet --max-process-count=8
not show hint output now.
lazbuild work time for me, 1minute 26second now, this mean 4 seconds less time.
thanx

I wish there were a parameter to hide warnings in some directories. Like:
--hide-warnings-in-dir=/usr/share/lazarus/1.2.6/components OR
--show-warnings-only-in-dir=/home/myuser/myproject

2015-03-20 11:16 GMT-03:00 Henry Vermaak :