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Allan E. Registos

Hello to all,

(Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum).

I was skimming the BSD Magazine: FreeBSD Programming Primer. In page 7 the magazine mentioned about Pascal this way:

Quote:
BASIC and Pascal are great for learning how to code, but they have some limitations....

You can read the whole paragraph from the magazine, a free download, it needs registration. I have felt that their is something wrong with the statement where Pascal was being paired as limited in the same way with BASIC. So I decided to write one of the BSD magazine contacts found in the magazine, and said in the mail that the Pascal quote is incorrect and that the name Pascal is too generic and may or may not refer to the Modern Pascal we have now such as FPC.

I said also that FPC code will run on most OSes and can do web programming and many web frameworks were created for it.

I've got an almost immediate reply and the editor give me thanks and said that if I will be able to write a short review on their next BSD magazine release to tell about the language Pascal, more like a column. I've felt that I am not the right person to write a review since my experience of using Free Pascal is not adequate. And I believe there are more persons here in the who are more resourceful, so I've mailed him back and said that it would be a great privilege for Lazarus/Free Pascal to be featured in the BSD magazine and said that I am not the right person to write a review, and will let anyone from this (forum) list to do it.

I believe writing a Free Pascal/Lazarus review to be featured in the BSD Magazine is one way of promoting the language in the BSD world.

If anyone can refer a resource person who is more willing to a write a review of Free Pascal in the BSD magazine, please drop a reply or contact me so that I can forward the email address to the editor.

The magazine's editor also stated that he is going to promote the language and welcome any reviewer.

Thank you very much...
Allan Registos

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Allan E. Registos
Allan E. Registos wrote 5 lines
Hello to all, (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). If anyone can refer a resource person who is more willing to a write a review of Free Pascal in the BSD magazine, please drop a reply or contact me so that I can forward the email address to the editor.

If you want, I can do so.
I've written more than 100 articles about FPC/Lazarus/Delphi in several magazines.

Michael.

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Lukasz Sokol
to Allan E. Registos: (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). I was skimming the BSD…

Hi,

Allan E. Registos wrote 7 lines
Hello to all, (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). I was skimming the BSD Magazine: FreeBSD Programming Primer. In page 7 the magazine mentioned about Pascal this way:

[...][sorry had to skim the context a little bit]

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I believe writing a Free Pascal/Lazarus review to be featured in the BSD Magazine is one way of promoting the language in the BSD world. If anyone can refer a resource person who is more willing to a write a review of Free Pascal in the BSD magazine, please drop a reply or contact me so that I can forward the email address to the editor. The magazine's editor also stated that he is going to promote the language and welcome any reviewer.

What if you start from setting up a wiki page to collect group-input to such article?

Since everybody is busy and this may be a chance for greater coverage (I imagine those doing FBSD ports sould be interested... but I'm not one of them) maybe let everybody leave some input (and get credited if/when this gets published)

But since you started this, you're exactly the person who should do the above, because you cared enough to start this; Start from setting clear licensing to whatever will get written on that page (GFDL? CC-BY-? whatever the magazine wants? Maybe usual wiki c/l/r conditions should be enough?) and maybe outline how you imagine this article.

Otherwise it's a case of 'lets-go-and-you-all-do-it' and result will be -ENOPATCH... which would be a great shame.

Needless to say, it probably won't be in a weeks-time either... ... nor would it end on one version/revision ;)

Thank you very much... Allan Registos

-L.

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Hans-Peter Diettrich
to Allan E. Registos: (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). I was skimming the BSD…
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Hello to all, (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). I was skimming the BSD Magazine: FreeBSD Programming Primer. In page 7 the magazine mentioned about Pascal this way: Quote: BASIC and Pascal are great for learning how to code, but they have some limitations....

I've just visited the German Wikipedia page for Pascal, and found it in questionable state, too.

DoDi

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Kostas Michalopoulos
to Michael Schnell

If you need examples of what can be done here are some i've made:

1. http://badsector.minus.com/mMhg91zP9 (almost everything is made in Lazarus - the maze editor specifically was made in a few hours, ignore the iOS stuff at the bottom those weren't made in Lazarus :-P)
2. https://github.com/badsector/lilcard (a hypercard clone - shots here http://mac.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/LILCard-Screenshot-132187.html
- i'm not sure if it is the exactly same though since i never built it for Mac OS X and i don't remember adding a dictation option... who makes those Softpedia builds? I had other stuff from me built for Mac :-P)
3. http://badsector.github.io/dcpustud/screenshots.html (DCPU-16 Studio, an assembler and VM for Notch's DCPU-16, at least the first spec since after a couple of days i lost interest... but still is the second most visited project of mine in GitHub - and for some time the most starred "Delphi" project there :-P)
4. This is Free Pascal only: http://runtimelegend.com/rep/gasmas/index (a 2D low level game framework, it says no docs but docs are actually here: http://badsector.github.io/gasmas/doc/index.html). I'm not sure how useful this will be for BSD though since i only have a X11 version locally.
5. http://badsector.github.io/webgroan/ (website editor/generator)
6. Free Pascal only again: http://runtimelegend.com/rep/ol/index (Scriptable console outliner)
7. Windows only, but well... it was made in some minutes so i could play Crysis 2 :-P http://runtimelegend.com/rep/fullscreenizer/index
8. Most likely the simplest tool of all:
https://github.com/badsector/table (a CSV editor)

I have a lot of other stuff, but i don't remember where :-P. Also i use Lazarus frequently at work for quick and dirty utilities.

Michael Schnell wrote 16 lines
On 02/04/2014 11:57 AM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > > I've just visited the German Wikipedia page for Pascal, and found it in > questionable state, too. > +1 -Michael -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Allan E. Registos
to Michael Van Canneyt: If you want, I can do so. I've written more than 100 articles about FPC/Lazarus/Delphi in…
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 16 lines
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Allan E. Registos wrote: > Hello to all, > > (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). > > If anyone can refer a resource person who is more willing to a write > a review of Free Pascal in the BSD magazine, please drop a reply or > contact me so that I can forward the email address to the editor. If you want, I can do so. I've written more than 100 articles about FPC/Lazarus/Delphi in several magazines. Michael.

Thanks Michael, (Can't send you a message directly, greylisting error, using this list instead).

BSD Magazine editor mail is:

With your experience, I am hesitate to share this to you, but in case you are interested, when I posted this at the laz forum, I asked one regular poster what might be the mechanics of doing a review, if you are interested here are the tips he gave:

* Know your audience
* Why do you like or not like the tool/software? What are the advantages compared against other tools?
* Describe the elements of the tool/software product. Remember that your audience might not be familiar with it.
* How can the features of the tool/software be used?

Regards,
Allan

PS: If possible, kindly cc/inform me about the progress of doing a Lazarus/Pascal review for the BSD magazine...

Thanks again.

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Allan E. Registos
to Lukasz Sokol: [...][sorry had to skim the context a little bit] What if you start from setting up a…
Lukasz Sokol wrote 24 lines
Hi, On 04/02/14 00:20, Allan E. Registos wrote: > Hello to all, > > (Part of this mail also I posted earlier at the Lazarus forum). > > I was skimming the BSD Magazine: FreeBSD Programming Primer. In page > 7 the magazine mentioned about Pascal this way: > [...][sorry had to skim the context a little bit] > I believe writing a Free Pascal/Lazarus review to be featured in the > BSD Magazine is one way of promoting the language in the BSD world. > > If anyone can refer a resource person who is more willing to a write > a review of Free Pascal in the BSD magazine, please drop a reply or > contact me so that I can forward the email address to the editor. > > The magazine's editor also stated that he is going to promote the > language and welcome any reviewer. > What if you start from setting up a wiki page to collect group-input to such article?

That's a good idea.

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Since everybody is busy and this may be a chance for greater coverage (I imagine those doing FBSD ports sould be interested... but I'm not one of them) maybe let everybody leave some input (and get credited if/when this gets published) But since you started this, you're exactly the person who should do the above,

Michael Van Canneyt has volunteered, I've given the privileged to him.

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because you cared enough to start this; Start from setting clear licensing to whatever will get written on that page (GFDL? CC-BY-? whatever the magazine wants? Maybe usual wiki c/l/r conditions should be enough?) and maybe outline how you imagine this article. Otherwise it's a case of 'lets-go-and-you-all-do-it' and result will be -ENOPATCH... which would be a great shame.

The editor mentioned about writing a column, and said that he will going to promote it, maybe one of the highlights of the magazine when they were going to release their next issue for their 40k users.

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Needless to say, it probably won't be in a weeks-time either... ... nor would it end on one version/revision ;) > Thank you very much... Allan Registos > -L. -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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