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[OT] New Lazarus website

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Andrew Brunner
to silvioprog: Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy! Silvio Cl?cio…

WOW! Superb! Great work!

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Hello, Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy!
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to silvioprog: Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy! Silvio Cl?cio…

Hi,

I don't know who did it - and if this is the right place to comment on this, but anyway:

Great job, it looks much nicer than the old one. And it has a much more professional look. *thumbs up*

There are only very small things, that IMO could be improved:

- the colors are a bit to bright / "loud", they could be slightly more subtle. Why not the "old", light blue colors, I don't think it was that bad...

- in the "Recent Announcements" box, I would put the date after the title (or maybe in front of it), currently it is hard to read, as there is no difference to the actual text

- "learn more" on some topics is slightly off and doesn't get highlighted on mouseover

- "Download now" links to 1.0.8 and not 1.0.10

Another more general note:
Assuming that most of the users have widescreen monitors (16:9 or similar), there is about 1/2 of the available place "wasted". So it would be nice, if (at least a bit more) of the side space would be used, but I'm also aware, that a scalable design is *very* hard to get right - so this is in no way a complaint.

Regards,
d.l.i.w

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2013/6/22 Curt Carpenter

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On 6/22/2013 1:03 PM, silvioprog wrote: Lazarus website with a new look: <http://github.com/silvioprog> looks great!

Nice. :)

I saw this announce via Takeda Matsuki on Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/LazarusFPCDevForum).

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silvioprog
to Ludo Brands: Nice! Why are all the download links pointing to 1.0.8? The text says 1.0.10 all over.…

2013/6/22 Ludo Brands

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On 06/22/2013 08:03 PM, silvioprog wrote: > Hello, > > Lazarus website with a new look: > > http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org > > Enjoy! > Nice! Why are all the download links pointing to 1.0.8? The text says 1.0.10 all over. Ludo

Hm... seems a bug. :/

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silvioprog
to Unknown author: I don't know who did it - and if this is the right place to comment on this, but anyway:…

2013/6/22

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Hi, I don't know who did it - and if this is the right place to comment on this, but anyway: Great job, it looks much nicer than the old one. And it has a much more professional look. *thumbs up* There are only very small things, that IMO could be improved: - the colors are a bit to bright / "loud", they could be slightly more subtle. Why not the "old", light blue colors, I don't think it was that bad... - in the "Recent Announcements" box, I would put the date after the title (or maybe in front of it), currently it is hard to read, as there is no difference to the actual text - "learn more" on some topics is slightly off and doesn't get highlighted on mouseover - "Download now" links to 1.0.8 and not 1.0.10 Another more general note: Assuming that most of the users have widescreen monitors (16:9 or similar), there is about 1/2 of the available place "wasted". So it would be nice, if (at least a bit more) of the side space would be used, but I'm also aware, that a scalable design is *very* hard to get right - so this is in no way a complaint. Regards, d.l.i.w

Nice. Please issue it in Lazarus forum:
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?action=forum

Thank you buddy!

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silvioprog
to Anthony Walter: Upvote this http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1gvqdc/lazarus_ide_has_a_new_webs…

2013/6/22 Anthony Walter

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Need to be logged to vote?

Put my "+1" there plz. :)

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Juha Manninen
to Hans-Peter Diettrich

The good news is that now anybody can improve the pages by sending patches. It was possible only for Pascal sources earlier, now it is possible for web page sources as well.
The Subversion repository is here :
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazaruswebsite/

Testing it locally requires normal web server + PHP installation. SMS (Simple Machines) forum SW does not need to be installed though. The PHP code is clever enough to insert "dummy" forum data when real data is not available.

I will a wiki page about it.

Juha

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vfclists .
to silvioprog: Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy! Silvio Cl?cio…

I think Delphi compatibility is given too much prominence in the basic description. Lazarus is first and foremost an Object Pascal programming IDE whereas Delphi compatibility is RAD/GUI via components aspect. I don't think 18 years after Delphi was introduced many Windows users know what Delphi is, let alone MAC or Linux users.

It should be introduced as an Object Pascal crossplatform development tool that should be seen as a good alternative to the basically C++, Objective-C and Python development tools on the non Windows platforms that also give access to Windows.

Object Pascal as an alternative to C++, C, Python requires better emphasis.

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Hello, Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy! -- Silvio Cl?cio My public projects - github.com/silvioprog -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
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Marc Santhoff
to silvioprog: Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy! Silvio Cl?cio…
silvioprog wrote 7 lines
Hello, Lazarus website with a new look: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org Enjoy!

Congratulations and many thanks to evryone involved, very well done.

It looks friendly - holds true for the colors ;) - it is clearly structured, so the visitor finds what she is looking for, the design is fresh and professionally looking. And it has lots of information without beeing overloaded. Very impressive and inviting.

Marc

Marc Santhoff

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Juha Manninen
to Junior: http://wiki.freepascal.org/WebPageDevelopment
Junior wrote

The wiki page only says "web page of Lazarus project". Lazarus itself is programmed with Pascal. It does not help when you want to modify a PHP program.
The HTML, CSS and PHP files together form a web application. You need a web server environment with PHP to test your changes. There is no alternative for that.
The process was already made as easy as possible by NOT requiring a local SMS installation.

Juha

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Kostas Michalopoulos
to Juha Manninen

Looks *great*! A huge improvement over the previous chaos... err, webpage i meant :-P.

The only nitpick i have is that "Tip of the day" should be "Random tip" (or something like that) since it changes every time you refresh the page, not daily :-P

Juha Manninen wrote 15 lines
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: > The process was already made as easy as possible by NOT requiring a > local SMS installation. Sorry, I meant SMF, the Simple machines forum SW. Juha -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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to Hans-Peter Diettrich: + the repeated "The Lazarus team is glad to announce..." leaves almost no room for useful…
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote 8 lines
> - in the "Recent Announcements" box, I would put the date after the title > (or maybe in front of it), currently it is hard to read, as there is no > difference to the actual text + the repeated "The Lazarus team is glad to announce..." leaves almost no room for useful information. DoDi

As a first "quick fix", the date is in the title now (via patch on mantis - thanks) and there is a bit more place for the actual text.

But as the text is taken from the forums, there is not much you could do about the second "issue".
So for future announcements:
keep in mind - the first sentence(s) will pop up on the main page... :)

d.l.i.w

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Leonardo M. Ramé
to vfclists .: I think Delphi compatibility is given too much prominence in the basic description.…
vfclists . wrote 13 lines
I think Delphi compatibility is given too much prominence in the basic description. Lazarus is first and foremost an Object Pascal programming IDE whereas Delphi compatibility is RAD/GUI via components aspect. I don't think 18 years after Delphi was introduced many Windows users know what Delphi is, let alone MAC or Linux users. It should be introduced as an Object Pascal crossplatform development tool that should be seen as a good alternative to the basically C++, Objective-C and Python development tools on the non Windows platforms that also give access to Windows. Object Pascal as an alternative to C++, C, Python requires better emphasis.

I completely agree, please do: s/Delphi compatible/Object Pascal/g

+1 for the new design.

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Marcos Douglas
to Leonardo M. Ramé
Leonardo M. Ram? wrote 16 lines
On 2013-06-23 12:52:57 +0100, vfclists . wrote: > I think Delphi compatibility is given too much prominence in the basic > description. Lazarus is first and foremost an Object Pascal programming IDE > whereas Delphi compatibility is RAD/GUI via components aspect. I don't > think 18 years after Delphi was introduced many Windows users know what > Delphi is, let alone MAC or Linux users. > > It should be introduced as an Object Pascal crossplatform development tool > that should be seen as a good alternative to the basically C++, Objective-C > and Python development tools on the non Windows platforms that also give > access to Windows. > > Object Pascal as an alternative to C++, C, Python requires better emphasis. > I completely agree, please do: s/Delphi compatible/Object Pascal/g

I agree. The Delphi compatibility is a feature not the objective.

+1 for the new design.

+1

Marcos Douglas

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Junior
to Marcos Douglas
Marcos Douglas wrote 28 lines
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Leonardo M. Ram? wrote: > On 2013-06-23 12:52:57 +0100, vfclists . wrote: >> I think Delphi compatibility is given too much prominence in the basic >> description. Lazarus is first and foremost an Object Pascal programming IDE >> whereas Delphi compatibility is RAD/GUI via components aspect. I don't >> think 18 years after Delphi was introduced many Windows users know what >> Delphi is, let alone MAC or Linux users. >> >> It should be introduced as an Object Pascal crossplatform development tool >> that should be seen as a good alternative to the basically C++, Objective-C >> and Python development tools on the non Windows platforms that also give >> access to Windows. >> >> Object Pascal as an alternative to C++, C, Python requires better emphasis. >> > I completely agree, please do: s/Delphi compatible/Object Pascal/g I agree. The Delphi compatibility is a feature not the objective. > +1 for the new design. +1 Marcos Douglas -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

+1

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