Hi list

Is there a way to force the "Rescan FPC Source Directory" to not run in OnIdle?

I've got an ARM computer with slow storage and I thought I'd leave the IDE for a while to wait for this operation to finish, only to realise that nothing happens when I'm not moving the mouse around/typing. The IDE is a bit useless without the ability to Ctrl-click my way around, but I got tired waving the mouse around after 5 minutes.

Henry

Many IDE tasks run on idle. The idle event is crucial for the LCL itself.

What widgetset?

Mattias

How does the IDE make sure these things keep running when there's no activity? Do you use OnIdleEnd? Or do you set Done := False in the OnIdle handler?

What widgetset?

It's gtk2, on some recent flavour of Ubuntu. Without the source index, it seems like I can't even double click on events in the object inspector to create handlers, since it tells me that Classes can't be found. It's happy building existing projects, though.

Henry

I have experienced similar problems. It seems the IDE can't work correctly any more without the full FPC sources. This is a shame though, because I have some systems where I really don't need the full FPC sources.

Regards,
- Graeme -

2013/6/20 Graeme Geldenhuys

TComponent sources, were needed always to generate events.

Vincent
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Vincent Snijders wrote

But this is not a break with the past, is it? FPC sources, in particular TComponent sources, were needed always to generate events.

I can't remember that. I just know Lazarus IDE complains a lot now if the FPC sources are not available - sometimes disabling features, or other features simply not working any more (broken).

If there is such a close and unnecessary tie to FPC sources, then Lazarus IDE must simply state that as minimum requirements and not allow the IDE to start up if the sources are missing.

I say unnecessary because MSEide doesn't require FPC sources, yet its integrated Form Designer, Object Inspector, code generation (eg: like event handlers) etc still works.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Henry Vermaak wrote

It's gtk2, on some recent flavour of Ubuntu. Without the source index, it seems like I can't even double click on events in the object inspector to create handlers, since it tells me that Classes can't be found. It's happy building existing projects, though.

OK, the idle stuff may be a red herring. If I rebuild lazarus with VerboseFPCSrcScan defined, rescanning the FPC source takes a couple of seconds and everything works fine.

I can't see anything obvious that would cause this, but I don't know about the side effects of calling some of the functions inside those define blocks. There may also be threading/memory bugs, of course.

Please let me know what I can do to provide more useful information.

Henry

Note: The FPC source directory is scanned in a thread not in idle. Unless you compiled with -dDisableMultiThreading.
Compile with -dVerboseFPCSrcScan to see in the terminal what is happening.

Most have only one task.
Those that update in several steps use Done:=false.

Yes. Many events use 'Sender: TObject' which is defined in classes.

It's happy building existing projects, though.

Mattias

Nothing has changed in this field for many years.
Some codetools require the classes.pp, some don't.

Mattias