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[OFFTOPIC] Person's name variations (Was: [ISSUE] FCL-Web and LazReport)

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Alexander Klenin
Sven Barth wrote 9 lines
>> Alex, could you try porting LazReport to nogui? > > Aside: "Alex", "Alexey" and "Alexander" are very different names in > Russian. > Please do not confuse me by using the wrong name ;) Well, there are people that prefer a shorter version of their name... For example I know a "Alexandra" which prefers to be called "Alex". :)

I am 99% sure that this person is not Russian.
This is actually an interesting property of the Russian language: some common names, such as "Alexander", have very many variations, which differ greatly in spelling and pronunciation, as well as in the semantic implications of intimacy/rudeness/fraternity etc. Nevertheless, they are all universally understood to be exact same name: Alexander = Sasha = Shyurik = Sanyok = San'ka = Sashen'ka = ... similarly, the other name, Alexey = Leha = Al'yosha = Leshka = ... Finally, the name "Alex" is a separate name which belongs to neither list, and is quite rare.
You can see now where the confusion is coming from :)

Alexander S. Klenin

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Sven Barth
to Alexander Klenin
Alexander Klenin wrote 22 lines
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sven Barth wrote: >>> Alex, could you try porting LazReport to nogui? >> >> Aside: "Alex", "Alexey" and "Alexander" are very different names in >> Russian. >> Please do not confuse me by using the wrong name ;) > > Well, there are people that prefer a shorter version of their name... For > example I know a "Alexandra" which prefers to be called "Alex". :) > I am 99% sure that this person is not Russian. This is actually an interesting property of the Russian language: some common names, such as "Alexander", have very many variations, which differ greatly in spelling and pronunciation, as well as in the semantic implications of intimacy/rudeness/fraternity etc. Nevertheless, they are all universally understood to be exact same name: Alexander = Sasha = Shyurik = Sanyok = San'ka = Sashen'ka = ... similarly, the other name, Alexey = Leha = Al'yosha = Leshka = ... Finally, the name "Alex" is a separate name which belongs to neither list, and is quite rare. You can see now where the confusion is coming from :)

That's interesting! O.o So do I understand that correctly that you don't have such "name abbreviations" (the translation for the corresponding German word "Kosename" seems to be "pet name" or "term of endearment") in the Russian language but instead (at least to us "Westerners") completely different names?

Regards,
Sven

PS: Are you registered in lazarus-other, so that we could move this to another list?

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Alexsander Rosa
to Alexander Klenin: I am 99% sure that this person is not Russian. This is actually an interesting property…

My father claims he named me after a russian person whose name he saw on the news at the time.
I was never sure which Alexander (or Aleksandr?) he was talking about, he does not remember it now.

2013/1/19 Alexander Klenin

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On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sven Barth wrote: >>> Alex, could you try porting LazReport to nogui? >> >> Aside: "Alex", "Alexey" and "Alexander" are very different names in >> Russian. >> Please do not confuse me by using the wrong name ;) > > Well, there are people that prefer a shorter version of their name... For > example I know a "Alexandra" which prefers to be called "Alex". :) > I am 99% sure that this person is not Russian. This is actually an interesting property of the Russian language: some common names, such as "Alexander", have very many variations, which differ greatly in spelling and pronunciation, as well as in the semantic implications of intimacy/rudeness/fraternity etc. Nevertheless, they are all universally understood to be exact same name: Alexander = Sasha = Shyurik = Sanyok = San'ka = Sashen'ka = ... similarly, the other name, Alexey = Leha = Al'yosha = Leshka = ... Finally, the name "Alex" is a separate name which belongs to neither list, and is quite rare. You can see now where the confusion is coming from :) -- Alexander S. Klenin
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