Hi, I want to share my new image for Lazarus logo, i will put it in my "powered by" in my application.

http://imagebin.org/242012

https://github.com/parmaja/cliparts/tree/master/lazarus-logo

First i am not an artist, but i worked on it while my brain is offline. I choose this Creative Commons license for it, (
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/), not sure it it good license for it.

And it is based on this image, i used it as guide lines to draw my own. http://nature.ca/notebooks/english/cheetah_p1.htm
I am not a lawyer, so not sure if i break any license for the original image.

Best Regards
Zaher Dirkey
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I think not as I can see some big differences...

great drawning!

2013/1/7 Zaher Dirkey

Hi, I want to share my new image for Lazarus logo, i will put it in my "powered by" in my application. http://imagebin.org/242012

Nice!

AFAIK this depends on the country.

Mattias

Umm... A cheetah is a cheetah is a cheetah. Any cheetah looks pretty similar to any other cheetah in the wild. So it goes without saying that a drawing of a cheetah will look pretty similar to another drawing of a cheetah. In any case, the one is a drawing of a complete cheetah, the other is just of the head section. Very different. So I don't think Zaher has anything to worry about.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Yep it is Cheetah, the new different is an SVG file, vectors not a bitmap. It is a just a head, more easy and less time :D

Graeme Geldenhuys hat am 8. Januar 2013 um 13:08
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You are probably right, that Zaher has not to worry.

AFAIK in most countries it does not matter if you create a derivative work only from parts of a drawing.
If the new work is a derivative work or if its resemblance is small enough to claim a new work is a matter of the law+lawyers of the country of whatever company wants to use this logo. Remember the "red bus" copyright case?

Mattias

There's a link on the cheetah page to the reproduction rights: http://nature.ca/notebooks/english/reprorights.htm

This statement is there:

"Illustrations and photographs are also subject to copyright protection, so you do not have the right to reproduce them, in most circumstances.
You may reproduce illustrations and photographs for personal use, as long as you credit the creator and copyright owner of each image. So, for example, you may copy an image and use it in a school project, with credit given.
The museum does not own all of the photographs used in the Natural History Notebooks, but it received permission from the owners to do so. The copyright owner of each illustration and photograph is identified directly below the larger-version of the image (obtained by clicking on the smaller version, and delivered in a pop-up browser-window). Where no copyright owner is identified for a photograph, it exists in the public domain."

And "For any other use of material from the Natural History Notebooks, contact us to request written permission."

So, i would ask the museum for permission, in order to avoid future problems...

2013/1/8, Mattias Gaertner :

We need the declaration for "reproduce" word, i don't think it is "make a similar to it", i need a lawyer :P

Jo?o Marcelo Vaz wrote

so you do not have the right to reproduce them

Zaher Dirkey wrote

We need the declaration for "reproduce" word, i don't think it is "make a similar to it", i need a lawyer :P

IANAL but "reproduce" here means "produce a copy of", which you are not doing.
Rather you are adapting the image (or taking inspiration from the image, or whatever) i.e. producing a different image.

Jo?o Marcelo Vaz wrote

So, i would ask the museum for permission, in order to avoid future problems...

So lets see.... Somebody is trying to copyright a cheetah looking left?? Zaher created an illustration of a left looking cheetah - I don't think ANY lawyer will waste his on trying to make a claim that that is copyrightable.

But then the world has gone totally bonkers with copyright anyway.

Zaher, I have a photo (that I took) of a cheetah looking left - I give you permission to say you copied my photo. No go in peace and marvel over your creation. ;-)

Regards,
- Graeme -

Exactly!

If Zaher printed and then traced the original image using a digital tablet+stylus, then I might consider it a problem. But his image looks nothing like the original. It a head of a cheetah for G*d's sake, and like I said, all cheetahs in the wild look pretty damn similar.

Regards,
- Graeme -

2013/1/8 Graeme Geldenhuys

ANY lawyer will waste his on trying to make a claim that that is copyrightable.

Especially in a case that no one is making money with it. ..

Let's think: penalty would be charged according to the profits gained from the use of the image, then 0-50% = 0

Jo?o Marcelo Vaz schrieb:
[...]

I doubt that such a simple sentence can make a photo public domain. Every picture has an creator, who can decide freely about the use (license) of his work. Most countries accepted this view of the ownership on intellectual work (Berne Convention), superseding widely the old English "Copyright".

And "For any other use of material from the Natural History Notebooks, contact us to request written permission." So, i would ask the museum for permission, in order to avoid future problems...

I'd discourage from contacting the museum. In most cases asking for an allowance is denied by the clerks of an organization, because this is the only "safe" answer for them.

[...]

>> Umm... A cheetah is a cheetah is a cheetah. Any cheetah looks pretty >> similar to any other cheetah in the wild.

It makes a difference whether a specific given picture is reproduced (copied, scanned...) to represent or ressemble that *picture*, or to ressemble an *object* (cheetah) shown on the picture. Everybody must have an idea of how a cheetah looks like, before he can make a painting of it. Such inspiration is free of rights.

DoDi

Ok, I published it in my site now, it is still beta and any patches is welcome :)

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:51 AM, William Oliveira Ferreira <

wrote: Let's think: penalty would be charged according to the profits gained from the use of the image, then 0-50% = 0

Best Regards
Zaher Dirkey
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Sorry, penalty is charged according to the *possible* gains (lost profit), of the rightholder of a picture (or whatever work). Giving something away for free is *not* an excuse for abusing it in this way.

DoDi

E ae pessoal, como voc?s est?o tratando a nova mascara de celular em SP ?

At? ent?o estava trabalhando assim

(xx) xxxx-xxxx

Existe um padr?o pro novo n?mero ?

Estava pensando em trabalhar ela assim:

(xx) xxxx-xxxxx

ou seja, a? n?o atrapalha os numeros que j? tenho no banco, porque eu os guardo assim 1112341234

Num exemplo ficaria assim (11) 9123-41234

Se eu acrescentar um digito no primeiro bloco vai zoar os n?meros antigos, exemplo

Atual
(11) 91234-1234
Antigo
(11) 12341-123 (pois n?o teria o 9)

Ser? que existe um padr?o ? ( seria bom )

Marcelo Silva
------------------------------------------------------------- Desenvolvedor: Delphi, PHP, ASP

Cel: (11) 95052-1407 Tim
Cel: (11) 99693-4251 Vivo
msn:

Empresa: Perfil Medicina e Seguran?a do Trabalho

Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote

Sorry, penalty is charged according to the *possible* gains (lost profit), of the rightholder of a picture (or whatever work). Giving something away for free is *not* an excuse for abusing it in this way.

True

I mentioned that in my blog.
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It is similar to this image<http://nature.ca/notebooks/english/cheetah_p1.htm>, i used it as guide lines only to draw my own so it is not a reproduce of it, also I used various of images for cheetahs from the internet to design and color it.
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You talk about the country, it is the country of the hoster of my site or blog, not my country, in fact in my country there is no law for licenses.

Best Regards
Zaher Dirkey
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Eu costumo guardar em dois campos (ddd e numero), ent?o vai ser transparente.

Mas como vc vai exibir 5x4 ou 4x5

12345-1234
ou
1234-12345

Pelo que andei lendo os 5 primeiros digitos passam a ser o codigo entao tera que ser 5x4

la vamos nois

2013/1/9 Hans-Peter Diettrich

Well, i still think the same as anyone here will pay for that picture...

...but, ok, i must learn something about those law issues...

Wrong list?

Mattias

Yes, i?m sorry!

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Basically the question is how to format 9-digit phone numbers: 99999-9999,
9999-99999,
999-999-999 or
9-9999-9999?

2013/1/9 Marcelo Silva