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Lazarus and Ubuntu 12.10

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Andrew Brunner

Is anyone running Lazarus 1.1 on Ubuntu 12.10x64?

I'm having problems getting lazarus to startup. Is anyone else having success or confirmed problems?

Andrew Brunner Aurawin LLC 512.574.6298 http://aurawin.com/ Aurawin is a great new place to store, share, and enjoy your photos, videos, music and more.

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Alexsander Rosa
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12.10 is beta, right?

2012/9/24 Andrew Brunner

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Is anyone running Lazarus 1.1 on Ubuntu 12.10x64? I'm having problems getting lazarus to startup. Is anyone else having success or confirmed problems? -- Andrew Brunner Aurawin LLC 512.574.6298 http://aurawin.com/ Aurawin is a great new place to store, share, and enjoy your photos, videos, music and more. -- ______________________________**_________________ Lazarus mailing list .**freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.**freepascal.org/mailman/**listinfo/lazarus<http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus>
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Andrew Brunner
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Alexsander Rosa wrote
12.10 is beta, right?

Ubuntu is a consistent work in progress. After every major release they take the code base and extend it with certain goals. There are 2 major releases a year each with goals to meet.

The time between releases has daily (sometimes twice a day) builds with changes. We test the changes and submit problems we have.

There are no betas in the conventional sense. Just rolling builds.

12.10 is going to be released in a number of weeks. So if there is an issue with API from GTK3 not playing with GTK2 nice someone (from lazarus) should file a report so when 12.10 comes out - Lazarus 1.1 will compile and work as Lazarus users need.

From a business standpoint, imo, Lazarus is the best thing for Linux, so targeting the best distro for maximum quality is very wise. It is acceptable if some distros don't work well - but it is imperative that the top distros are supported with quality.

// optional reading as it maybe offensive to some :-)

Ubuntu is the high-end linux distro - as it compares to OSX and Windows
7. Meaning graphics, video performance, and bloat-ware installed. If comparing linux distros via a minimalist "lens" the evaluation result may be different. But for industry comparisons - bloated desktops - it is superior.

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Juha Manninen
to Andrew Brunner: Ubuntu is a consistent work in progress. After every major release they take the code…
Andrew Brunner wrote
12.10 is going to be released in a number of weeks. So if there is an issue with API from GTK3 not playing with GTK2 nice someone (from lazarus) should file a report so when 12.10 comes out - Lazarus 1.1 will compile and work as Lazarus users need.

GTK3 bindings are not done yet. They will use a completely new codebase instead of deriving from the messy GTK2 binding code. Until that you should install the GTK2 libraries in your Ubuntu. I believe they are still available.

Juha

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Andrew Brunner
to Henry Vermaak: Do you have more information? Back traces? Maybe unity is causing more problems…

I can get more info. The problems are ubiquitous. It may just be easier to wait for release of 12.10 then fire off reports.

Henry Vermaak wrote
Do you have more information? Back traces? Maybe unity is causing more problems (remember liboverlay?).
Andrew Brunner Aurawin LLC 512.574.6298 http://aurawin.com/ Aurawin is a great new place to store, share, and enjoy your photos, videos, music and more.

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brian
to Andrew Brunner: Ubuntu is a consistent work in progress. After every major release they take the code…
Andrew Brunner wrote 6 lines
Ubuntu is the high-end linux distro - as it compares to OSX and Windows 7. Meaning graphics, video performance, and bloat-ware installed. If comparing linux distros via a minimalist "lens" the evaluation result may be different. But for industry comparisons - bloated desktops - it is superior.

As regards Linux, I have to question whether it isn't the desktop rather than the distro which affects the bloatware content.

Brian.

(declaration of interest - I'm using Debian SID with XFCE desktop after Mint and KDE v4.x just got too bloated for my tastes)

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Kostas Michalopoulos
to brian

It is the desktop. Lubuntu is lightweight.

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On 09/25/2012 09:07 AM, Andrew Brunner wrote: > > Ubuntu is the high-end linux distro - as it compares to OSX and > Windows 7. Meaning graphics, video performance, and bloat-ware > installed. If comparing linux distros via a minimalist "lens" the > evaluation result may be different. But for industry comparisons - > bloated desktops - it is superior. > As regards Linux, I have to question whether it isn't the desktop rather than the distro which affects the bloatware content. Brian. (declaration of interest - I'm using Debian SID with XFCE desktop after Mint and KDE v4.x just got too bloated for my tastes) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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