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Wiki: how to propose deleting a page?

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Bart

Hi,

Sorry if this is a RTFM question.

Say I would like to propose to delete a certain wiki page, how would I do that? Is there some built-in mechanisme in the wiki to do this or do I have to mail somebody (some moderator)?
I couldn't find any documentation in the wiki help section on this.

Bart

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Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
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Once when I needed to do this I simply substituted the page contents with empty contents. I know this doesn't really answer the question, but anyway... maybe someone else will know a more proper solution.

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho

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Bart
to Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: Once when I needed to do this I simply substituted the page contents with empty contents.…
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote
Once when I needed to do this I simply substituted the page contents with empty contents. I know this doesn't really answer the question, but anyway... maybe someone else will know a more proper solution.

I find that rather (c)rude when the page in question is not your own. I know on a wiki any user can modify (almost any) pages, but that is supposed to be foor correcting or adding information. Deeting an entire entry is a different kind of beast...

Also doesn't that just leave an empty page instead of completely removing it?

Bart

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Bart
to Alexander Klenin: Why not discuss it here? Alternatively, you can use "Talk" page on the wiki ("discussion"…
Alexander Klenin wrote 6 lines
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Bart wrote: > Say I would like to propose to delete a certain wiki page, how would I do > that? Why not discuss it here? Alternatively, you can use "Talk" page on the wiki ("discussion" link above the page).

That would be OK by me.
As far as I am concerned anyone can read my reasons for wanting to remove pages, so here we go:

1)
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Building_the_VCL_with_FPC

This page has an external link to a zip-file which contains (modified) Borland copyrighted material (Delphi VCL source code). Quite some time ago I contacted the author of this page and asked him to either remove the link or make sure the zip didn't contain copyrighted material.
He did not do so.
Linking to copyrighted material on the official fpc/lazarus wiki reflects badly upon our community IMO, hence I would like to see that page removed.

2)
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_7

Stumbled upon this one via "random page".
Information seems outdated and doesn't really anything usefull IMHO. No page links to this page, so removing won't cause dead links.

Bart

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Sven Barth
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Bart wrote 6 lines
2) http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_7 Stumbled upon this one via "random page". Information seems outdated and doesn't really anything usefull IMHO. No page links to this page, so removing won't cause dead links.

As a sidenote: you can see all pages that are not linked to by going to "special pages" on the navigation left and selecting "orphaned pages" in the category at the top.

Regards,
Sven

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Vincent Snijders
to Bart: On 9/15/12, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho I find that rather (c)rude when the page in…

2012/9/16 Bart :

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On 9/15/12, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > Once when I needed to do this I simply substituted the page contents > with empty contents. I know this doesn't really answer the question, > but anyway... maybe someone else will know a more proper solution. > I find that rather (c)rude when the page in question is not your own. I know on a wiki any user can modify (almost any) pages, but that is supposed to be foor correcting or adding information. Deeting an entire entry is a different kind of beast... Also doesn't that just leave an empty page instead of completely removing it?

Deleted pages can be found back at:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete

There is also a restore button, but I don't know if that is because I am an admin or not.

I think deleting a page with a reason given in the comment is better than leaving an empty page.

Vincent

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Reinier Olislagers
to Bart: That would be OK by me. As far as I am concerned anyone can read my reasons for wanting to
Bart wrote 26 lines
On 9/16/12, Alexander Klenin wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:18 AM, Bart wrote: >> Say I would like to propose to delete a certain wiki page, how would I do >> that? > > Why not discuss it here? Alternatively, you can use "Talk" page on the wiki > ("discussion" link above the page). That would be OK by me. As far as I am concerned anyone can read my reasons for wanting to remove pages, so here we go: 1) http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Building_the_VCL_with_FPC This page has an external link to a zip-file which contains (modified) Borland copyrighted material (Delphi VCL source code). Quite some time ago I contacted the author of this page and asked him to either remove the link or make sure the zip didn't contain copyrighted material. He did not do so. Linking to copyrighted material on the official fpc/lazarus wiki reflects badly upon our community IMO, hence I would like to see that page removed.

Why don't you remove the link right now then, e.g. specifying "*LINK TO COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL REMOVED*"?

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Bart
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Reinier Olislagers wrote
Why don't you remove the link right now then, e.g. specifying "*LINK TO COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL REMOVED*"?

I thought about that, but it might also reflect badly upon us? In the end, I think removing the page alltogether would be better.

Bart

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
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Bart wrote 8 lines
On 9/16/12, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > Why don't you remove the link right now then, e.g. specifying "*LINK TO > COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL REMOVED*"? I thought about that, but it might also reflect badly upon us? In the end, I think removing the page alltogether would be better.

Although the unexpurgated original will remain ,
unless the wiki manager adds a "don't index" file which (when I last looked at this) they obey as soon as they see it.

Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]

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