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Did the executable output path change?

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Dejan Boras

In r29190 the executables were output to the same directory as the project file if given a target file name in options. Now (r29435) the executable file is output into the unit output directory, regardless if a target file name is set or not. Creating a new project makes no change. Why the change, and how to modify this behavior? -------------- next part --------------
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Thomas Gatliff
to Dejan Boras

Can you send the compiler options you are using? You can copy them by going to Project -> Compiler Options -> Show Options (Button)

2011/2/10 Dejan Boras

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In r29190 the executables were output to the same directory as the project file if given a target file name in options. Now (r29435) the executable file is output into the unit output directory, regardless if a target file name is set or not. Creating a new project makes no change. Why the change, and how to modify this behavior? -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Dejan Boras

The options are as below:

-MObjFPC -Scghi -O1 -gl -vewnhi -l -FiC:\Programming\dbxpas\oX\tests\lib\i386-win32 -Fu..\units -Fu..\..\app\units -Fu..\..\app\units\keys -Fu..\..\Units\Common -Fu..\units\gl -Fu..\units\render -Fu..\units\win -Fu. -FUlib\i386-win32\ -FElib\i386-win32\ -otest.exe

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From: Thomas Gatliff To: Dejan Boras ; Lazarus mailing list Cc: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Did the executable output path change? Can you send the compiler options you are using? You can copy them by going to Project -> Compiler Options -> Show Options (Button) 2011/2/10 Dejan Boras In r29190 the executables were output to the same directory as the project file if given a target file name in options. Now (r29435) the executable file is output into the unit output directory, regardless if a target file name is set or not. Creating a new project makes no change. Why the change, and how to modify this behavior? > >-- >>_______________________________________________ >>Lazarus mailing list > >>http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/attachments/20110210/d275dc96/attachment.html>

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Mattias Gaertner
to Dejan Boras: In r29190 the executables were output to the same directory as the project file if given…
In r29190 the executables were output to the same directory as the project file if given a target file name in options. Now (r29435) the executable file is output into the unit output directory, regardless if a target file name is set or not. Creating a new project makes no change. Why the change, and how to modify this behavior?

This was fixed in 29453.

Mattias

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Bo Berglund
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Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote 6 lines
Dejan Boras schrieb: Can you please stop sending HTML messages? The selected font size is so small that I cannot read your message. Sending plain text is sufficient and leaves no room for such problems.

One of the advantages of following this list via the GMane news relay (news.gmane.org group: gmane.comp.ide.lazarus.general) is that the message bodies are plaintext. :-)

Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden

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Hans-Peter Diettrich
to Bo Berglund
One of the advantages of following this list via the GMane news relay (news.gmane.org group: gmane.comp.ide.lazarus.general) is that the message bodies are plaintext. :-)

This doesn't help any contributor, when I simply disregard his unpleasant messages - be for HTML format or full quotes.

He who wants to be heard (by me) must follow *my* rules :-]

DoDi

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Andreas Schneider
to Hans-Peter Diettrich
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote 13 lines
Bo Berglund schrieb: > One of the advantages of following this list via the GMane news > relay > (news.gmane.org group: gmane.comp.ide.lazarus.general) is that the > message bodies are plaintext. :-) This doesn't help any contributor, when I simply disregard his unpleasant messages - be for HTML format or full quotes. He who wants to be heard (by me) must follow *my* rules :-] DoDi

Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it.

Just saying .... because what you wrote sounds pretty egocentric.

P.S.: Both of my eMail frontends (The Bat! and Roundcube) had no problems
rendering the eMail at a readable size, so I guess: time for you to get a
proper mail client ;-)

SCNR

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Marco van de Voort
to Andreas Schneider
Andreas Schneider wrote 5 lines
Just saying .... because what you wrote sounds pretty egocentric. P.S.: Both of my eMail frontends (The Bat! and Roundcube) had no problems rendering the eMail at a readable size, so I guess: time for you to get a proper mail client ;-)

I've a problem with it with the latest version of my email-client (ELM), so I would like to see it go too!

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Andreas Schneider
to Marco van de Voort
Marco van de Voort wrote
I've a problem with it with the latest version of my email-client (ELM), so I would like to see it go too!

Fair enough, but I guess it should probably be forbidden by mailman (which, afaik, offers filtering). So it's up to the mailinglist owner.

(I wouldn't mind a text-only policy, but currently that isn't in place, so if - for whatever reason - I can't read/open/comprehend a mail, I just ignore it.)

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Hans-Peter Diettrich
to Andreas Schneider: Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it. Just saying ....…
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> He who wants to be heard (by me) must follow *my* rules :-] Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it. Just saying .... because what you wrote sounds pretty egocentric.

Yes, I'm egocentric when somebody asks for my assistance ;-)

P.S.: Both of my eMail frontends (The Bat! and Roundcube) had no problems rendering the eMail at a readable size, so I guess: time for you to get a proper mail client ;-)

No, my "filter" allows me to quickly skip over contributions from users, that do not understand the use of a mailing list or newsgroup, or use inappropriate eMail software. My experience from decades of mail and news usage (you remember MAUS net?) tells me that it's not worth bothering with certain kinds or styles of messages and contributors. A bit of according education will make life easier to *all* participators
- see Netiquette.

SCNR

Granted ;-)

DoDi

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de_jean_7777
to Hans-Peter Diettrich

I am sorry for this, uhm, problem. I was using the Yahoo! web interface at the time to write my mail. Now that I am home, I adjusted my mail client to send only text to the Lazarus list, which I hope will solve any problems. I will make sure to send text only when to Hans-Peter for pointing this out.

Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote 37 lines
Andreas Schneider schrieb: >> He who wants to be heard (by me) must follow *my* rules :-] > > Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it. > > Just saying .... because what you wrote sounds pretty egocentric. Yes, I'm egocentric when somebody asks for my assistance ;-) > P.S.: Both of my eMail frontends (The Bat! and Roundcube) had no > problems > rendering the eMail at a readable size, so I guess: time for you to > get a > proper mail client ;-) No, my "filter" allows me to quickly skip over contributions from users, that do not understand the use of a mailing list or newsgroup, or use inappropriate eMail software. My experience from decades of mail and news usage (you remember MAUS net?) tells me that it's not worth bothering with certain kinds or styles of messages and contributors. A bit of according education will make life easier to *all* participators - see Netiquette. > SCNR Granted ;-) DoDi -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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waldo kitty
to Hans-Peter Diettrich: Can you please stop sending HTML messages? The selected font size is so small that I…
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote 5 lines
Dejan Boras schrieb: Can you please stop sending HTML messages? The selected font size is so small that I cannot read your message. Sending plain text is sufficient and leaves no room for such problems.

i went back and looked and dejan's posts are arriving here as multipart posts with a plain/text section... is your reader selecting the HTML portion over the plain/text one??

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Hans-Peter Diettrich
to waldo kitty
i went back and looked and dejan's posts are arriving here as multipart posts with a plain/text section... is your reader selecting the HTML portion over the plain/text one??

Many thanks for this hint :-)

It was not easy, but I could find a mailnews_prefer_plaintext option, that was disbled by default. After changing this option I see the original message in plain text. All that after using this software for so many years... <sigh>

Please excuse my ignorance and inappropriate rant, everybody :-(

DoDi

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Andreas Schneider: Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it. Just saying ....…

Op 2011-02-11 15:27, Andreas Schneider het geskryf:

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> > He who wants to be heard (by me) must follow *my* rules :-] Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it. Just saying .... because what you wrote sounds pretty egocentric.

Where is the list moderator/maintainer now? HTML email is NOT allowed in the mailing list as for as I know. This is a general rule for 99% of all mailing lists out there. So I would like to see such message gone too - irrespective if my email client can or cannot read such messages.

So same goes for quoting messages. It just peeves me when somebody quotes 30-50+ lines, then only adds a one line reply!

Moderator, please do what you were assigned/volunteered to do!

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Andreas Schneider: Fair enough, but I guess it should probably be forbidden by mailman (which, afaik, offers…

Op 2011-02-11 15:46, Andreas Schneider het geskryf:

Fair enough, but I guess it should probably be forbidden by mailman (which, afaik, offers filtering). So it's up to the mailinglist owner.

These are the rules for most mailing lists....

http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Yes, that one relates to fpc-pascal, but I would have expected the same rules for the lazarus mailing list too. It's common rules/etiquette that should be known by all.

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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Vincent Snijders
to Graeme Geldenhuys: Op 2011-02-11 15:27, Andreas Schneider het geskryf: Where is the list…

2011/2/14 Graeme Geldenhuys :

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Op 2011-02-11 15:27, Andreas Schneider het geskryf: >> >> He who wants to be heard (by me) must follow *my* rules :-] > > Yeah, but it's not your list and you aren't the only one who reads it. > > Just saying .... because what you wrote sounds pretty egocentric. Where is the list moderator/maintainer now? ?HTML email is NOT allowed in the mailing list as for as I know.

I choose not to respond in this thread.
It is not forbidden to write HTML mails, I agree is it not wise, because less people can read it.

Vincent

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Vincent Snijders

Op 2011-02-14 10:40, Vincent Snijders het geskryf:

It is not forbidden to write HTML mails, I agree is it not wise, because less people can read it.

OK, could you maybe create a Lazarus mailing list etiquette page like what was done for fpc-pascal as shown below. This could include attachment size limit, preferred mail format, quote size etc. This information could be very useful to new mailing list subscribers.

http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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