I've installed the binary of FPC 2.4.2 on Windows 2000 and Windows NT4 without problems. I've done an svn export of Lazarus and this builds and runs fine on W2K, but on NT I get

Compiling projectwizarddlg.pas
Compiling idecmdline.pas
Compiling resource ..\units\i386-win32\lazarus.or
Error: Duplicate resource: Type = 10, Name = , Lang ID = 0409 lazarus.pp(130,1) Error: Error while compiling resources Linking ..\lazarus.exe
lazarus.pp(130,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping Fatal: Compilation aborted
make[2]: *** [lazarus.exe] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `C:/usr/local/share/lazarus-newstable/ide' make[1]: *** [ide] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/usr/local/share/lazarus-newstable/ide' make: *** [ide] Error 2

I've eliminated the usual suspects (wrong tools version etc.) by only having the FPC binaries on the path.

What should I be doing to get more useful error information?

2011/1/22 Mark Morgan Lloyd :

I've installed the binary of FPC 2.4.2 on Windows 2000 and Windows NT4 without problems. I've done an svn export of Lazarus and this builds and runs fine on W2K, but on NT I get

I think we should discontinue the support for Windows NT4.

Microsoft doesn't support Windows 2000 anymore either, and I cannot download it from msdn either, so testing on Windows 2000 is getter harder too.

Vincent

Same here. All company development happens on a VMWare with Windows 2000. I pitied the day I had to drop Windows NT otherwise I'd still be using that.

Michael.

Op 2011-01-25 11:29, Vincent Snijders het geskryf:

Microsoft doesn't support Windows 2000 anymore either, and I cannot download it from msdn either, so testing on Windows 2000 is getter harder too.

I use Win2000 in a VM session for all my Windows testing. I can confirm that 0.9.30 (fixes branch) does indeed compile and run correctly.

But I have to agree with you on NT4. As NT4 is a bit older that Win2000 though.

Regards,
- Graeme -

Op 2011-01-25 11:47, het geskryf:

I pitied the day I had to drop Windows NT otherwise I'd still be using that.

At least Win2000 was a descendant of NT4 code base, unlike XP which had lots of the Win95 to WinME (home + gaming support code) included. I read this somewhere on the net - if this is true, I wouldn't know. But I can say that Win2000 is fast and very stable.

Regards,
- Graeme -

I can't argue with that but if I could make a couple of suggestions:

i) If NT4 is phased out it might be worth retaining W2K for an extended period, since I think that this is the final version that doesn't demand activation. I suspect that there is a reasonable population of users who favour it for that reason, but this might change if ReactOS matures.

ii) I can't produce figures, but I think that a significant number of industrial (rack-mounted) computers were sold with one or other of those OSes and in a high proportion of cases those will not have been upgraded.

If this turns out to be a tools issue it might be worth fixing, or at least documenting as an understood problem. Or at the very least could somebody point me at how to get a useful indication of what's actually happening.

I've got NT in a Qemu VM with legacy Delphi and some important comms on it, plus some application servers. Some but probably not all of that could be moved onto W2K, but- as company policy- we're not going near anything that requires activation.

Drop NT4. (+1)

2011/1/25 Vincent Snijders

Op 2011-01-25 12:05, Mark Morgan Lloyd het geskryf:

as company policy- we're not going near anything that requires activation.

A good policy, and that's my personal policy too! Kylix 3 Open Edition (for GPL project development) being a case in point - proving activation sucks! The software is freely available, but without activation (which neither Borland or Embarcadero can offer anymore) the software can't even be run. All those open-source projects based on Kylix 3 is now dead in the water.

Regards,
- Graeme -

... And runs on very modest hardware, so I can open 5 VMware instances in parallel on a reasonably up-to-date machine. Not so when using Windows 7.

Michael.

The problem we have- or strictly had- with activation was that on occasion we had to configure a computer for a turnkey industrial job and then, once it was fully operational, install it on a customer's site.

It was bad enough having to write the tender and contract around MS's license, but having to allow for change of ownership plus the very big question of who was responsible if it needed re-activating (in the middle of the night) made the situation utterly impossible.

Windows XP is an Windows NT 5.1 (Windows 2000 was Windows NT 5).

I personally am glad that Microsoft decided to discontinue the 9x line and focus only on the NT line, because by design the NT architecture is much safer then the old DOS based one (16 bit DOS driver stubs, no real memory protection, etc, etc). Also NT has real multi user support.

And just as a sidenote: Windows 2000 contained much of the so called "home + gaming support code" as well (you're able to run DirectX games there as well :D )

Regards,
Sven

As it's an NT 4... you could try how good ReactOS performs here. I'm aware that it's still Alpha and thus you should handle this with care, but it's worth a try (and it costs nothing except time :D ).

Regards,
Sven

The last time I tried ReactOS in Qemu it wouldn't write to any files. I've seen this behaviour in a very limited number of cases on NT in Qemu, so I suspect that it's a poor disc (ATAPI etc.) emulation i.e. a Qemu problem.

And right now I'd far rather put what spare time I've got into testing FPC/Lazarus and into trying to kick off one or two interesting projects than trying to debug either ReactOS or Qemu. Particularly in the case of ReactOS I was extremely unimpressed by the developers' attitude when I had the temerity to ask a question about the possible direction of the project.

Of course, if it happened that Lazarus and ReactOS developers found that they had sufficient in common to be nice to each other then I might change my mind.

Is this the ONLY remaining issue preventing 0.9.30 release, right? http://bugs.freepascal.org/roadmap_page.php

2011/2/7 Alexsander Rosa :

Is this the ONLY remaining issue preventing 0.9.30 release, right? http://bugs.freepascal.org/roadmap_page.php

No.

Vincent

What else is missing? How could one help?
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view_all_set.php?type=3&source_query_id=1811

2011/2/7 Vincent Snijders

2011/2/7 Alexsander Rosa :

What else is missing? How could one help? http://bugs.freepascal.org/view_all_set.php?type=3&source_query_id=1811

http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=13192 has just been postponed.

There are about 60 new issues. I don't know if any of them are regressions. All have to be acknowledge before we can say that all has been done.

Vincent