Hi Michael Van Canneyt,

Gee, the famous developer of FPC. Nice to meet you.

I will study your reply. At the moment I am have problems actually finding fp and fpc binaries on my Mint 10 system (Linux).

see attached file, my system, when I do a "locate fp" gives me 9924 results!

The documentation *appears* to not say the location fp and fpc binaries.

Where is fp ide located on my Mint 10 Linux system?

http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/user/usersu26.html#x53-600006.1.1

I would like to suggest adding a table here listing the default locations for fp and fpc on different platforms. Tables are, of course, standard html. I have included below an ASCII mockup, as I am using gmail and I cannot quickly generate a html file, on the run.

This data could even be stored in a comma separated value (csv) file, allowing importing into pascal programs.

If you can supply me with the csv data file as an attachment the I will edit the page (
http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/user/usersu26.html#x53-600006.1.1 ) with kompozer and send the html page to you.

Table 6.1 - Default location for fpc and fp binary files +--------------+---------------------+--------------------+ |OS Platform | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | | | (default) | (default) | +--------------+---------------------+--------------------+ |dos | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |linux | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |Amiga (0.99.5)| fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |Windows | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |Mac OS/X | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |OS/2 | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |FreeBSD | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |BeOS | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |Solaris | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |NetBSD | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |Netware | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |OpenBSD | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |MorphOS | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | |Symbian | fpc compiler folder | fp ide folder | +--------------+---------------------+--------------------+

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6.1.1 Starting the
IDE<http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/user/user.html#QQ2-53-62>

The IDE is started by entering the command:
fp

at the command line. It can also be started from a graphical user interface such as Windows.

Remark: Under Windows, it is possible to switch between windowed mode and full screen mode by pressing Alt-Enter.

</quote>
pew

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
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http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

2010/12/29 Michael Van Canneyt

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2010/12/29 Peter E Williams :

I will study your reply. At the moment I am have problems actually finding fp and fpc binaries on my Mint 10 system (Linux).

Please, ask question about the fp binary on the fpc-pascal mailing list[1], since it is off topic for this list. While you are at it, you can ask the question about the fpc binaries there too.

Vincent
[1] http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal/

Hi Vincent,

Thanks for the info. I am already subscribed to the fpc-pascal list... but I didn't realise that my message was off topic.

I agree that the fpc-pascal list is more appropriate for my questions. :-)

pew

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
--- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
--- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675
My free websites are: http://pewink.info (&)
http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

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The question is not about the FP binary, but about Mint packaging.

The FPC team doesn't package for Mint, so this question should move to Mint specific packaging, not to general FPC lists.

Dear Mark,

You are wrong! Mint 10 is a 100% derivative of Ubuntu Linux. In fact I used the Mint 10 package which is based on the Ubuntu 10 OS.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that the FPC Team does not answer questions about Ubuntu packaging, which is after all the biggest Linux distribution. My understanding is that Mint is the second biggest Linux distribution, after Ubuntu (as claimed by the Mint website).

The FPC team doesn't package for Mint, so this question should move to Mint specific packaging, not to general FPC lists.

Where IS the Mint specific packaging FPC list? Does it even exist?

Information makes the world go around. Not trying to put triangles into square holes. :-) Sometimes it works with a hammer.

http://www.organic-development.com/myblog/you-can-fit-a-square-peg-into-a-round-hole.html

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2010/12/29 Peter Williams :

> > 2010/12/29 Peter E Williams : > > > I will study your reply. At the moment I am have problems actually > > > finding > > > fp and fpc binaries on my Mint 10 system (Linux).

If those binaries are in your path then `which fp` and `which fpc` should say where the programs are installed/located. Otherwise, the package manager (e.g. synaptic in Ubuntu) is usually able to tell which files got installed by a package (and where) in some "details/installed files" section/tab of the pkg manager.

Assuming, with all due respect to everybody, that he has actually installed it successfully (i.e. that it didn't fail due to the absence of some prerequisite. Allowing that Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu which is itself a derivative of Debian I, for one, would be very cautious.

Peter, in extremis try

find /usr -name fp

and possibly others such as basing the find on /opt if the distro ever uses that for packages.

Hi Mark,

I don't know where they are installed/located. The software manager application does not tell me. It simply installs them.

Yes, I installed Lazarus, latest stable release, which has fp as it's dependency. I have since used subversion to install Lazarus into Home/juni/Lazarus folder.

Peter, in extremis try find /usr -name fp

juni at juni ~ $ find /usr -name fp
/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic-pae/include/config/have/function/graph/fp /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-24-generic-pae/include/config/have/function/graph/fp /usr/bin/fp

cd /usr/bin
fp

and success. fp ide is correcting running. Thank you, Mark.

Now that wasn't so hard after all, was it folks. I was it like pulling teeth? You decide.

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Peter Williams wrote

You are wrong! Mint 10 is a 100% derivative of Ubuntu Linux. In fact I used the Mint 10 package which is based on the Ubuntu 10 OS.

Ubuntu is not supported either. The core Linux distribution is the .tar.gz distribution agnostic one, the distribution specific building is 3rd party (though FPC core does Redhat RPM and Debian .deb), but only when downloaded from the actual FPC site.

if you obtain FPC or Lazarus packages elsewhere, you need to ask that "elsewhere" for packaging related support.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that the FPC Team does not answer questions about Ubuntu packaging, which is after all the biggest Linux distribution. My understanding is that Mint is the second biggest Linux distribution, after Ubuntu (as claimed by the Mint website).

You can always try, but that doesn't make it the most logical place to ask.

> The FPC team doesn't package for Mint, so this question should move to Mint > specific packaging, not to general FPC lists. Where IS the Mint specific packaging FPC list? Does it even exist?

Mint specific packaging list or forum, unrelated to FPC.

Information makes the world go around. Not trying to put triangles into square holes. :-) Sometimes it works with a hammer.

It helps if you have the right hole in the first place, otherwise the whole process is futile.

And I would say that starting from the tarball and rebuilding a source snapshot or from svn has given me no trouble on Debian or Slackware, while saves me being stuck several years behind reality. However FPC and Lazarus are about the only things I install this way, /particularly/ for system libraries I rely as much as possible on the distro.

FWIW and not trying to jump in and beat any animals, but just in case this was not already answered, the FPC team may or may not create the packages used in the various *nix installation systems... they may create and manage some that may not be the ones actually used by the various distribution systems... generally speaking, some one takes up the task and they may not be officially or otherwise related to the project...

i hope that makes sense and comes across straight...

Assuming that your software manager is Synaptic and that you used it to install fp:

1. Open Synaptic
2. use the 'Search' option - look for fp- because fpc on debian/ubuntu is contained in a number of packages eg fp-ide, fp-units-gtk, etc
3. highlight the fp-ide unit by clicking on it, then click on the 'Properties' button in the toolbar. A window will appear with a number of tabs, one of which is 'Installed files'. _If_ the package has been installed this tab will provide a list of all files installed by the package and their location.

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True, and that is no problem. It is not that we are against it, just that the responsibility (and support) for such packaging lies with the distribution (packaging is what they do!). The FPC team only has a facilitary duty there.