Hello Lazarus-List,

I had updated my Lazarus to lastest SVN (28028) since my "old" which was a month old. Now every package of my projects are being tried to be recompiled everytime I press the F9 (Build). The effect is different than pressing "Buld All" which will also recompile my .pas files.

The effect looks like it always see that compile time and sources times are different, which could have some logic as my local time changed yesterday (Central European Time).

Anybody see this effect too ? My machine is WinXP SP3 spanish locale. I had not changed nothing in new build profiles.

Also, selecting Project Options and pressing cancel and exitting the IDE, it asks to save changes :-? Which changes ?

2010/11/2 Jos? Mejuto :

AFAIK F9 is by default "Run" not "Build". Anyway, check your settings of the "Always build (even if nothing changed)" option in "Project Options | Miscellaneous", it could be the cause of what you're seeing.

Hello Lazarus-List,

Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 8:38:55 AM, you wrote:

H> 2010/11/2 Jos? Mejuto :

H> AFAIK F9 is by default "Run" not "Build". Anyway, check your settings H> of the "Always build (even if nothing changed)" option in "Project H> Options | Miscellaneous", it could be the cause of what you're seeing.

Well, F9 = "Build + Run" and Run is not important here, but the effect is the same if using simply "Build".

The "Always build (even if nothing changed)" should affect my sources, not the packages and I have it marked ON since 4 years and this effect is something completly new.

Just to fullfill information my fpc is 2.5.1 2010/10/02 and I had completly rebuild it and completly rebuild Lazarus with clean both.

Start the IDE in a terminal. It writes to stdout why a package is recompiled.

Mattias

Op 2010-11-02 14:37, Mattias Gaertner het geskryf:

Start the IDE in a terminal. It writes to stdout why a package is recompiled.

Maybe a "View > IDE Internals > IDE Log/Messages" could be added for such information. After all, we know what Console phobia the Mac and Windows users have. :)

Regards,
- Graeme -

Good idea.

Mattias

Hello Lazarus-List,

Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 8:38:55 AM, you wrote:

H> 2010/11/2 Jos? Mejuto :

H> AFAIK F9 is by default "Run" not "Build". Anyway, check your settings H> of the "Always build (even if nothing changed)" option in "Project H> Options | Miscellaneous", it could be the cause of what you're seeing.

It suddenly stops to do the effect, nothing changed, no fpc or Lazarus recompile. It stops at some time between 12:00 and 13:45 CET. It could be related to a WindowsXP bug/problem I had detected long time ago, which some time functions returns incorrect time (no daylight saving) in the next day(s) of the daylight saving change :-?

The only thing I had done is adjust the Windows time :-? to a more accurate seconds value (it was 30 seconds off real time).

Hello Lazarus-List,

MG> Start the IDE in a terminal. It writes to stdout why a package is MG> recompiled.

I'm on Windows, so :

TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation StateFile older than lpk Printer4Lazarus 0.5 TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation SrcFile outdated fortes324forlaz 0.3.5.10 TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation Src has changed TAChartLazarusPkg 1.0 F:\Lazarus\components\tachart\tadbsource.pas TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation Src has changed LazControls 0.0 F:\Lazarus\components\lazcontrols\extendednotebook.pas TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation StateFile older than lpk SQLDBLaz 1.0.1

TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation StateFile older than lpk Printer4Lazarus 0.5 TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation SrcFile outdated fortes324forlaz 0.3.5.10 TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation Src has changed TAChartLazarusPkg 1.0 F:\Lazarus\components\tachart\tadbsource.pas TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation Src has changed LazControls 0.0 F:\Lazarus\components\lazcontrols\extendednotebook.pas TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation StateFile older than lpk SQLDBLaz 1.0.1

TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation StateFile older than lpk Printer4Lazarus 0.5 TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation SrcFile outdated fortes324forlaz 0.3.5.10 TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation Src has changed TAChartLazarusPkg 1.0 F:\Lazarus\components\tachart\tadbsource.pas TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation Src has changed LazControls 0.0 F:\Lazarus\components\lazcontrols\extendednotebook.pas TLazPackageGraph.CheckIfPackageNeedsCompilation StateFile older than lpk SQLDBLaz 1.0.1

This are three consecutive "Build", nothing changed in between, and none of the .pas files listed are being loaded in the IDE.

It stops suddenly to recompile the packages (nothing changed, nor in project or Lazarus config). I had only readjusted the Windows clock for a few seconds :-?

I'll try to simulate in my windows the hour change again and see what happends.

Hello Lazarus-List,

Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 1:47:05 PM, you wrote:

GG> Op 2010-11-02 14:37, Mattias Gaertner het geskryf:

> > Start the IDE in a terminal. It writes to stdout why a package is > recompiled.

GG> Maybe a "View > IDE Internals > IDE Log/Messages" could be added for such GG> information. After all, we know what Console phobia the Mac and Windows GG> users have. :)

IDE Log/Messages is not available in my Lazarus for Windows. Only "package links" and "About fpc".

In Windows the stdout is redirected to "debug.txt" file. I do not hate command line ;) I hate CMD.EXE :) I'm using JPSoftware's 4NT.

There is also --debug-log so you do not need a console...

Op 2010-11-02 16:08, Martin het geskryf:

There is also --debug-log so you do not need a console...

Well, they would need to drop to console window to execute lazarus with that parameter. Or, they will have to modify there Lazarus desktop shortcut, then remember to undo it again when they are done.

A simple "Lazaras Log/Messages" menu items is just so much easier. ;-)

Regards,
- Graeme -

[devil's advocate]

console? what's a console?? for that matter, what's a "prompt"?? ;)

[/devil's advocate]

Op 2010-11-03 01:37, waldo kitty het geskryf:

console? what's a console?? for that matter, what's a "prompt"?? ;)

The answer is 42.

Regards,
- Graeme -

of course! that's the only real answer to anything anyway ;) :lol: