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Antônio

There is a bounty of %500 fot "To setup Lazarus/FPC for arm-linux cross compiling" ( http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,8084.0.html ) on the Wiki (
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties#LAZARUS_RUNING_IN_A_LINUX_MACHINE_COMPILING_TO_ARM.2FLINUX_.24500_US_.3D.3D).

Good luck.
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Kjow
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2010/3/17 Ant?nio :

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I wrote the tutorial and it works.
If you follow the instructions here:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Setup_Cross_Compile_For_ARM

you can cross compile from linux-i386 to linux-arm, only you need are the destination library. I can build apps for Nokia N900 (that is an arm-linux machine, it use Maemo5 a debian (arm) based distro).

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Antônio
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Should I interpret this as meaning that you do not want the $ 500?

Ant?nio

2010/3/17 Kjow

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2010/3/17 Ant?nio : > There is a bounty of %500 fot "To setup Lazarus/FPC for arm-linux cross > compiling" ( http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,8084.0.html ) > on the Wiki ( > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties#LAZARUS_RUNING_IN_A_LINUX_MACHINE_COMPILING_TO_ARM.2FLINUX_.24500_US_.3D.3D > ). > > Good luck. I wrote the tutorial and it works. If you follow the instructions here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Setup_Cross_Compile_For_ARM you can cross compile from linux-i386 to linux-arm, only you need are the destination library. I can build apps for Nokia N900 (that is an arm-linux machine, it use Maemo5 a debian (arm) based distro). Regards, Kjow -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Kjow
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2010/3/18 Ant?nio :

Should I interpret this as meaning that you do not want the $ 500? Ant?nio

No, I want simply tell you that there is already a way to build for arm-linux with latest lazarus/fpc svn :)

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Antônio
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The advertiser is from a brazilian software company, http://www.mobilitysistemas.com.br/ .

Ant?nio

2010/3/17 Kjow

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2010/3/18 Ant?nio : > Should I interpret this as meaning that you do not want the $ 500? > > Ant?nio No, I want simply tell you that there is already a way to build for arm-linux with latest lazarus/fpc svn :) Regards, Kjow -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Antônio
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If you can do the job, do not miss the chance.

Ant?nio

2010/3/17 Kjow

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2010/3/18 Ant?nio : > The advertiser is from a brazilian software company, > http://www.mobilitysistemas.com.br/ . > > Ant?nio Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that was you the one that wrote this bounty :) Regards, Kjow -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Antônio
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The advertiser contacted me in LazarusBrasil, explicitly citing your tutorial.

Ant?nio

2010/3/17 Ant?nio

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If you can do the job, do not miss the chance. Ant?nio 2010/3/17 Kjow > 2010/3/18 Ant?nio : > > The advertiser is from a brazilian software company, > > http://www.mobilitysistemas.com.br/ . > > > > Ant?nio > > Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that was you the one that wrote this bounty :) > > Regards, > Kjow > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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Antônio
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That means he'll probably prefer the author of the tutorial.

2010/3/17 waldo kitty

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On 3/17/2010 20:58, Ant?nio wrote: > The advertiser contacted me in LazarusBrasil, explicitly citing your > tutorial. > so does that mean they rescind the bounty? ;) :) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Antônio
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If you do not know how to receive international payment, or if you need some local support to do the task, let me know.

Ant?nio

2010/3/17 Ant?nio

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That means he'll probably prefer the author of the tutorial. 2010/3/17 waldo kitty On 3/17/2010 20:58, Ant?nio wrote: > >> The advertiser contacted me in LazarusBrasil, explicitly citing your >> tutorial. >> > > so does that mean they rescind the bounty? ;) :) > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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Kjow
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2010/3/18 Ant?nio :

If you do not know how to receive international payment, or if you need some local support to do the task, let me know. Ant?nio

Hi :)
I don't understand if the turorial helped them to cross compile for arm-linux or they need more help I tried to contact them, but no replies.
They can contact me through lazarus forum, clicking my nick and reading my email address in the profile or sending me a private message in the forum:
http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,8084.0.html

Best Regards,
Kjow

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Antônio
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From what I understood, he read the tutorial but can not apply it properly.

The reply shall come soon. Now it is 5h30 am in Brazil.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Kjow

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2010/3/18 Ant?nio : > If you do not know how to receive international payment, or if you need some > local support to do the task, let me know. > > Ant?nio Hi :) I don't understand if the turorial helped them to cross compile for arm-linux or they need more help I tried to contact them, but no replies. They can contact me through lazarus forum, clicking my nick and reading my email address in the profile or sending me a private message in the forum: http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,8084.0.html Best Regards, Kjow -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Kjow
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2010/3/18 Ant?nio :

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>From what I understood, he read the tutorial but can not apply it properly. The reply shall come soon. Now it is 5h30 am in Brazil. Ant?nio

Ok, thank you very much!

I need to do some modify to it (I received some hints), so this can be the right time to do this.

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Kjow

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Silvio Clecio
to Antônio: The reply shall come soon. Now it is 5h30 am in Brazil. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Kjow…
Ant?nio wrote 5 lines
>From what I understood, he read the tutorial but can not apply it properly. The reply shall come soon. Now it is 5h30 am in Brazil. Ant?nio

Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment to be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ??

I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed.

[]'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

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Antônio
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He seems to be looking for a permanent solution to his problem. If you can support Kjow in Brazil, and he could pay you, it will be a perfect business of geek capitalism.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Ant?nio escreveu: >>From what I understood, he read the tutorial but can not apply it properly. > > The reply shall come soon. Now it is 5h30 am in Brazil. > > Ant?nio Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment to be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Antônio
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It seems that he needs to make programs for Linux because their customers require and he sees this as a cost saving, but still uses Delphi and is not very comfortable with Linux.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Ant?nio

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He seems to be looking for a permanent solution to his problem. If you can support Kjow in Brazil, and he could pay you, it will be a perfect business of geek capitalism. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio Ant?nio escreveu: > >>From what I understood, he read the tutorial but can not apply it > properly. > > > > The reply shall come soon. Now it is 5h30 am in Brazil. > > > > Ant?nio > > Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment to > be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? > > I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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to Antônio: He seems to be looking for a permanent solution to his problem. If you can support Kjow…
Ant?nio wrote 5 lines
He seems to be looking for a permanent solution to his problem. If you can support Kjow in Brazil, and he could pay you, it will be a perfect business of geek capitalism. Ant?nio

OK. ;)

Let's wait a little longer. He answered my
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Silvio Cl?cio

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Antônio
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We need to know how much Kyow want to pay to be supported by you in Brazil.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Ant?nio escreveu: > He seems to be looking for a permanent solution to his problem. If you > can support Kjow in Brazil, and he could pay you, it will be a perfect > business of geek capitalism. > > Ant?nio OK. ;) Let's wait a little longer. He answered my e-mail at night. -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Antônio
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Kjow. Sorry.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Ant?nio

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We need to know how much Kyow want to pay to be supported by you in Brazil. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > Ant?nio escreveu: > > > He seems to be looking for a permanent solution to his problem. If you > > can support Kjow in Brazil, and he could pay you, it will be a perfect > > business of geek capitalism. > > > > Ant?nio > > OK. ;) > > Let's wait a little longer. He answered my e-mail at night. > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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to Antônio: It seems that he needs to make programs for Linux because their customers require and he…
Ant?nio wrote 5 lines
It seems that he needs to make programs for Linux because their customers require and he sees this as a cost saving, but still uses Delphi and is not very comfortable with Linux. Ant?nio

I understood this too. I just thought it strange he leave 'shooting' for all sides.

I ask (for PVT) for a person to do something, if it does not work, I ask other people (Forum), do you understand me?

It is as if he were trying to buy something for two (or more) people. And I do not usually charge for this type of the work (helps).

[]'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

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Antônio
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He does not mind paying. He is rehearsing its entry in the Linux world and need a solution that works.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Ant?nio escreveu: > It seems that he needs to make programs for Linux because their > customers require and he sees this as a cost saving, but still uses > Delphi and is not very comfortable with Linux. > > Ant?nio I understood this too. I just thought it strange he leave 'shooting' for all sides. I ask (for PVT) for a person to do something, if it does not work, I ask other people (Forum), do you understand me? It is as if he were trying to buy something for two (or more) people. And I do not usually charge for this type of the work (helps). -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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to Kjow: 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio : Do you refer to me? Kjow
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2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio : > Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment to > be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? > > I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. Do you refer to me? Kjow

No. People of the Brasil in general.

Here in Brazil people do not value the work of those who work with computers and programming. They think it's all very simple and easy, unfortunately this is so.

I spent hours downloading (900...1500 b/s) the Free Pascal 2.4.0 to help the member to solve problem with arm-liux, and I receive an email of the list where he offers $500 for those who solve. Just wasted my time. :/

ps. guys, excuse for my bad english. ;D

[]'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

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Antônio
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Your work will not lost.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Kjow escreveu: > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio : >> Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment to >> be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? >> >> I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. > > Do you refer to me? > > Kjow No. People of the Brasil in general. Here in Brazil people do not value the work of those who work with computers and programming. They think it's all very simple and easy, unfortunately this is so. I spent hours downloading (900...1500 b/s) the Free Pascal 2.4.0 to help the member to solve problem with arm-liux, and I receive an email of the list where he offers $500 for those who solve. Just wasted my time. :/ ps. guys, excuse for my bad english. ;D -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Your work will not be lost.

2010/3/18 Ant?nio

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Your work will not lost. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > Kjow escreveu: > > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio : > >> Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment to > >> be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? > >> > >> I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. > > > > Do you refer to me? > > > > Kjow > > No. People of the Brasil in general. > > Here in Brazil people do not value the work of those who work with > computers and programming. They think it's all very simple and easy, > unfortunately this is so. > > I spent hours downloading (900...1500 b/s) the Free Pascal 2.4.0 to help > the member to solve problem with arm-liux, and I receive an email of the > list where he offers $500 for those who solve. Just wasted my time. :/ > > ps. guys, excuse for my bad english. ;D > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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In addition, you would not charge anything and now can earn some money.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Ant?nio

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Your work will not be lost. 2010/3/18 Ant?nio > Your work will not lost. > > Ant?nio > > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > >> Kjow escreveu: >> > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio : >> >> Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment >> to >> >> be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? >> >> >> >> I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. >> > >> > Do you refer to me? >> > >> > Kjow >> >> No. People of the Brasil in general. >> >> Here in Brazil people do not value the work of those who work with >> computers and programming. They think it's all very simple and easy, >> unfortunately this is so. >> >> I spent hours downloading (900...1500 b/s) the Free Pascal 2.4.0 to help >> the member to solve problem with arm-liux, and I receive an email of the >> list where he offers $500 for those who solve. Just wasted my time. :/ >> >> ps. guys, excuse for my bad english. ;D >> >> -- >> []'s >> >> Silvio Cl?cio >> -- >> programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br >> programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br >> programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog >> -- >> grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ >> -- >> Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Lazarus mailing list >> >> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >> > >

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Antônio
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If Kjow want to pay it, of course.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Ant?nio

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In addition, you would not charge anything and now can earn some money. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Ant?nio > Your work will not be lost. > > 2010/3/18 Ant?nio > >> Your work will not lost. >> >> Ant?nio >> >> 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio >> >>> Kjow escreveu: >>> > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio : >>> >> Interestingly, he had asked me to do this. I prepared my environment >>> to >>> >> be able to help you, I lost my time with it. ?? >>> >> >>> >> I definitely do not understand people, especially the rushed. >>> > >>> > Do you refer to me? >>> > >>> > Kjow >>> >>> No. People of the Brasil in general. >>> >>> Here in Brazil people do not value the work of those who work with >>> computers and programming. They think it's all very simple and easy, >>> unfortunately this is so. >>> >>> I spent hours downloading (900...1500 b/s) the Free Pascal 2.4.0 to help >>> the member to solve problem with arm-liux, and I receive an email of the >>> list where he offers $500 for those who solve. Just wasted my time. :/ >>> >>> ps. guys, excuse for my bad english. ;D >>> >>> -- >>> []'s >>> >>> Silvio Cl?cio >>> -- >>> programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br >>> programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br >>> programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog >>> -- >>> grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ >>> -- >>> Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lazarus mailing list >>> >>> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >>> >> >> >

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Ant?nio wrote
Your work will not be lost.

Thanks.

He answered now an email I sent yesterday. He not can even install the FPC.

I'm here to help regardless of money (see my web history, silvioprog on search of Google of the Brasil) ;) Just found it strange the way with he addressed me and soon after addressed the forum. :/ Despite the dire need that he is, he try can not buy people, and for so little ($500). Especially in an open source project. (If he was offering a prize, to that he contacted me in pvt? I personally do not like the competition on open source projects).

Let's solve this problem, he is a new Lazarus user, and new Linux user. I can help, but I not will ensure, because I do not want to interfere in any competition.

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This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Ant?nio escreveu: > Your work will not be lost. Thanks. He answered now an email I sent yesterday. He not can even install the FPC. I'm here to help regardless of money (see my web history, silvioprog on search of Google of the Brasil) ;) Just found it strange the way with he addressed me and soon after addressed the forum. :/ Despite the dire need that he is, he try can not buy people, and for so little ($500). Especially in an open source project. (If he was offering a prize, to that he contacted me in pvt? I personally do not like the competition on open source projects). Let's solve this problem, he is a new Lazarus user, and new Linux user. I can help, but I not will ensure, because I do not want to interfere in any competition. -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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If you do not bother with payment, my opinion is that you should colaborate with Kjow and form a team with him.

Ant?nio

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This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > Ant?nio escreveu: > > > Your work will not be lost. > > Thanks. > > He answered now an email I sent yesterday. He not can even install the > FPC. > > I'm here to help regardless of money (see my web history, silvioprog on > search of Google of the Brasil) ;) Just found it strange the way with he > addressed me and soon after addressed the forum. :/ Despite the dire > need that he is, he try can not buy people, and for so little ($500). > Especially in an open source project. (If he was offering a prize, to > that he contacted me in pvt? I personally do not like the competition on > open source projects). > > Let's solve this problem, he is a new Lazarus user, and new Linux user. > I can help, but I not will ensure, because I do not want to interfere in > any competition. > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt Ant?nio

OK Ant?nio, I understand. But it seems to me not bounties, he is desperate and want a solution at all costs. (if you want I can forward the email I received from him).

Well, for those who like <strike>of the competitiveness</strike>, on open source project: Enjoy ;)

ps.: I talked with friends on a list here of Brazil (I needed help to create the environment), no one agreed with this kind of 'bounties'.

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Well, I did not invent them, the community adopts them since before I arrived.

Ant?nio

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Ant?nio escreveu: > This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the > community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt > > Ant?nio OK Ant?nio, I understand. But it seems to me not bounties, he is desperate and want a solution at all costs. (if you want I can forward the email I received from him). Well, for those who like <strike>of the competitiveness</strike>, on open source project: Enjoy ;) ps.: I talked with friends on a list here of Brazil (I needed help to create the environment), no one agreed with this kind of 'bounties'. -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people need money.

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Well, I did not invent them, the community adopts them since before I arrived. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > Ant?nio escreveu: > > > This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the > > community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: > > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt > > > > Ant?nio > > OK Ant?nio, I understand. But it seems to me not bounties, he is > desperate and want a solution at all costs. (if you want I can forward > the email I received from him). > > Well, for those who like <strike>of the competitiveness</strike>, on > open source project: Enjoy ;) > > ps.: I talked with friends on a list here of Brazil (I needed help to > create the environment), no one agreed with this kind of 'bounties'. > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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I'm not exactly an enthusiast of capitalism, but I see no problem in bonties.

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An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people need money. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Ant?nio > Well, I did not invent them, the community adopts them since before I > arrived. > > > Ant?nio > > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > >> Ant?nio escreveu: >> >> > This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the >> > community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: >> > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt >> > >> > Ant?nio >> >> OK Ant?nio, I understand. But it seems to me not bounties, he is >> desperate and want a solution at all costs. (if you want I can forward >> the email I received from him). >> >> Well, for those who like <strike>of the competitiveness</strike>, on >> open source project: Enjoy ;) >> >> ps.: I talked with friends on a list here of Brazil (I needed help to >> create the environment), no one agreed with this kind of 'bounties'. >> >> -- >> []'s >> >> Silvio Cl?cio >> -- >> programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br >> programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br >> programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog >> -- >> grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ >> -- >> Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Lazarus mailing list >> >> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >> > >

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to Antônio: If you do not bother with payment, my opinion is that you should colaborate with Kjow and…
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If you do not bother with payment, my opinion is that you should colaborate with Kjow and form a team with him. Ant?nio

I think this is an error occurring in the translations. Please, if there is any word not that sounds good, let me know.

Of course I can help Kjow :) And anyone who need. I do this and with much gladly.

Think with me:

1. I ask help in PVT;
2. The other day I offer a 'premium' in a forum, to try to solve the
same problem;
3. But I not communicate to you that I launched an 'premium' in the forum;

So to say that my efforts and my work will have no value? If I had not received the email of the list, would be here 'fighting' to be able to resolve this problem. I lost a few hours asking friends about this problem. If I knew he would ask for the whole world would, I would not have wasted my time and the time of my friends. I think now you understand me.

There is no problem with the list/generosity/*anything*... Just did not think just the way he turned to me and then devalued my effort.

You understand me now?

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An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people need money.

But not at all costs!

Ant?nio
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You talk as if someone was making a lack ethics. I say it is not applicable, once the community itself created the bounties.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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The advertiser contacted me and decided to create the bounty and I felt compelled to warn Kjow.

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2010/3/18 Ant?nio

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You talk as if someone was making a lack ethics. I say it is not applicable, once the community itself created the bounties. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > Ant?nio escreveu: > > > An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people > > need money. > > But not at all costs! > > > Ant?nio > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus >

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I'm not exactly an enthusiast of capitalism, but I see no problem in bonties. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Ant?nio < <mailto:>> An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people need money. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Ant?nio < <mailto:>> Well, I did not invent them, the community adopts them since before I arrived. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio < <mailto:>> Ant?nio escreveu: > This is not competition. Lazarus bounties is a scheme accepted by the > community. It is an accepted way to pay programmers. See here: > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties/pt > > Ant?nio OK Ant?nio, I understand. But it seems to me not bounties, he is desperate and want a solution at all costs. (if you want I can forward the email I received from him). Well, for those who like <strike>of the competitiveness</strike>, on open source project: Enjoy ;) ps.: I talked with friends on a list here of Brazil (I needed help to create the environment), no one agreed with this kind of 'bounties'. -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio

And much less me.

First I ask a person if she can help me, if not, I ask help others. And not the whole world and even offering prizes.

I'm not understanding, I think that is the translation. :/ You seem to answer their own questions. Several emails followed, not giving time for me to answer. I'll let you talk at all, after, I try to translate and understand to then respond. Not good answer without being sure of what this talking.

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Hi Antonio,

I think we've given you the benefit of the doubt when reading your posts. To me it was obvious that the argument was needing you to adjust your methods to get the project moving and maintain respect for personal feelings. The issue is not about bounties. It's about initial contact with someone who became vested in helping and was side skirted. That's it.

Please feel free to post bounties in the future. But when people get upset over getting involved make sure respect contributors, especially when they are offering their services free of charge.

2010/3/18 Ant?nio :

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You talk as if someone was making a lack ethics. I say it is not applicable, once the community itself created the bounties. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio > > Ant?nio escreveu: > > An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people > > need money. > > But not at all costs! > > > Ant?nio > > -- > []'s > > Silvio Cl?cio > -- > programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br > programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog > -- > grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ > -- > Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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I understand his personal feellings, I will not get anything with that too. Moreover,
I do not want to give the impression that I do not care about him, this is not true.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Andrew Brunner

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Hi Antonio, I think we've given you the benefit of the doubt when reading your posts. To me it was obvious that the argument was needing you to adjust your methods to get the project moving and maintain respect for personal feelings. The issue is not about bounties. It's about initial contact with someone who became vested in helping and was side skirted. That's it. Please feel free to post bounties in the future. But when people get upset over getting involved make sure respect contributors, especially when they are offering their services free of charge. 2010/3/18 Ant?nio : > You talk as if someone was making a lack ethics. I say it is not applicable, > once the community itself created the bounties. > > Ant?nio > > 2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio >> >> Ant?nio escreveu: >> > An open source project is not the communist party or a church, people >> > need money. >> >> But not at all costs! >> >> > Ant?nio >> >> -- >> []'s >> >> Silvio Cl?cio >> -- >> programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br >> programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br >> programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog >> -- >> grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ >> -- >> Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Lazarus mailing list >> >> http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Lazarus mailing list > > http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus > > -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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The advertiser contacted me and decided to create the bounty and I felt compelled to warn Kjow. Ant?nio 2010/3/18 Ant?nio < <mailto:>> You talk as if someone was making a lack ethics. I say it is not applicable, once the community itself created the bounties. Ant?nio

I think you are not understanding what I'm trying to explain, but it is normal, my english is of the a translator (Google), and I'm not sure if he chose the correct word. (a comma changes all, imagine a word).

I is not criticizing your post ($500 of bounty). In all the time I trying to explain that he contact me in PVT, and soon after, came to the all world (he did not even wait an answer from me.). That is, the guy devalued my effort. Only it!

If I were interested in money (which to me not is all), would not have washed my hands.

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OK.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Ant?nio escreveu: > The advertiser contacted me and decided to create the bounty and I felt > compelled to warn Kjow. > > Ant?nio > > 2010/3/18 Ant?nio < <mailto: >> > > You talk as if someone was making a lack ethics. I say it is not > applicable, once the community itself created the bounties. > > Ant?nio I think you are not understanding what I'm trying to explain, but it is normal, my english is of the a translator (Google), and I'm not sure if he chose the correct word. (a comma changes all, imagine a word). I is not criticizing your post ($500 of bounty). In all the time I trying to explain that he contact me in PVT, and soon after, came to the all world (he did not even wait an answer from me.). That is, the guy devalued my effort. Only it! If I were interested in money (which to me not is all), would not have washed my hands. -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Hi Antonio, I think we've given you the benefit of the doubt when reading your posts. To me it was obvious that the argument was needing you to adjust your methods to get the project moving and maintain respect for personal feelings. The issue is not about bounties. It's about initial contact with someone who became vested in helping and was side skirted. That's it. Please feel free to post bounties in the future. But when people get upset over getting involved make sure respect contributors, especially when they are offering their services free of charge.

Thanks Andrew. (although I have not been able to translate everything, I understand some parts :) ).

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Sorry for the incident.

Ant?nio

2010/3/18 Silvio Clecio

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Andrew Brunner escreveu: > Hi Antonio, > > I think we've given you the benefit of the doubt when reading your > posts. To me it was obvious that the argument was needing you to > adjust your methods to get the project moving and maintain respect for > personal feelings. The issue is not about bounties. It's about > initial contact with someone who became vested in helping and was side > skirted. That's it. > > Please feel free to post bounties in the future. But when people get > upset over getting involved make sure respect contributors, especially > when they are offering their services free of charge. Thanks Andrew. (although I have not been able to translate everything, I understand some parts :) ). -- []'s Silvio Cl?cio -- programmer ObjectPascal - Blog: http://blog.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Site: http://www.silvioprog.com.br programmer ObjectPascal - Twitter: http://twitter.com/silvioprog -- grupo Lazarus-BR no Google - http://groups.google.com/group/lazarus-br/ -- Mensagem assinada com PGP Public Key, Ver.: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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OK. Ant?nio

Hey guy... I hope you have not been upset with me (bad translation). Please understand that the error came in the attitude of Anderson Serpa Magalh?es (he seems to be very impatient).

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Sorry for the incident. Ant?nio

No problems, guy :) . I will contact him (Anderson - ), I can send with a Bcc copy for you. Well,
after all that, I do not feel right to do the job. I wish good luck to Kjow and if he needs any help, can count on me too.

Now I go format my PC and return the previous settings. Bye ;)

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