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Request to unlist Arabic language.

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Zaher Dirkey

Hi,
I like to distribute Lazarus the official setup to some newbie students, but Lazarus use our locale to open with Arabic language, We all Arabic develpers use the English language for programming, and also our students, the problem Arabic PO files not completed yet. Could i ask please to unlist it (maybe until to be stable) in the next official setup.

Sincerely yours.

Zaher Dirkey
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ik
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?You can also do two other things with it One is in linux, i do not know how to do it in Windows:

A. Create a bash file that set the language local to English B. On settings change it from default (???????) to English the first time it execute (or just add it to the setting files before first run) and it can will do the same thing.

Ido

http://ik.homelinux.org/

2010/1/29 Zaher Dirkey

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Hi, I like to distribute Lazarus the official setup to some newbie students, but Lazarus use our locale to open with Arabic language, We all Arabic develpers use the English language for programming, and also our students, the problem Arabic PO files not completed yet. Could i ask please to unlist it (maybe until to be stable) in the next official setup. Sincerely yours. Zaher Dirkey -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Mattias Gärtner
to Zaher Dirkey: I like to distribute Lazarus the official setup to some newbie students, but Lazarus use…

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Hi, I like to distribute Lazarus the official setup to some newbie students, but Lazarus use our locale to open with Arabic language, We all Arabic develpers use the English language for programming, and also our students, the problem Arabic PO files not completed yet. Could i ask please to unlist it (maybe until to be stable) in the next official setup.

The translations are always somewhat behind, and are done by volunteers.

If you prefer english, you can switch the language in the environment / options / desktop.
Or you can set the default for a machine by creating the following file:

/etc/lazarus/environmentoptions.xml

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<CONFIG>
<EnvironmentOptions>
<Version Value="106"/>
<Language ID="en"/>
</EnvironmentOptions>
</CONFIG>

For the various windows systems the path is different.

This file is loaded the first time lazarus is started (i.e. when no ~/.lazarus/environmentoptions.xml exists).

Mattias

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Zaher Dirkey
to Mattias Gärtner

2010/1/29 Mattias G?rtner

If you prefer english, you can switch the language in the environment / options / desktop. Or you can set the default for a machine by creating the following file:

@ik and Mattias

Thanks for your replays.

For me it is easy and it is done by first time, but not that my problem (How to switch to English).
My wife teaching Delphi 7 in a school, she not know what Lazarus is even if i put Lazarus Setup in her Flash Disk then wish install it in that school and start teaching it, especially Lazaus has good BidiMode in Win32 (for me).
The problem Lazarus after first install start with Arabic and with mixed with English words that not translated, and with some funny translated words.
That make Bad points for Lazarus for a newbies students and teachers.

If it possible to mark that language not read to use to unstable without remove it from the list but just not use it in the first time installed.

Sincerely yours.

Zaher Dirkey
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ik
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2010/1/29 Zaher Dirkey

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2010/1/29 Mattias G?rtner If you prefer english, you can switch the language in the environment / > options / desktop. > Or you can set the default for a machine by creating the following file: > @ik and Mattias Thanks for your replays. For me it is easy and it is done by first time, but not that my problem (How to switch to English). My wife teaching Delphi 7 in a school, she not know what Lazarus is even if i worked at home. I put Lazarus Setup in her Flash Disk then wish install it in that school and start teaching it, especially Lazaus has good BidiMode in Win32 (for me). The problem Lazarus after first install start with Arabic and with mixed with English words that not translated, and with some funny translated words. That make Bad points for Lazarus for a newbies students and teachers.

I completely understand. in Hebrew for example there are two more problem, one is that every time I tried to translate something, something messed the order of the translation up.
And many people did not like the fact that it speaks Hebrew rather English because they dislike mixing technical words in native language. So most of them that installing Lazarus and Hebrew is their locale, they either stop using Lazarus or switch immediately to English. That's why I stopped translating things.

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If it possible to mark that language not read to use to unstable without remove it from the list but just not use it in the first time installed. Sincerely yours. Zaher Dirkey -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Zaher Dirkey: 2010/1/29 Mattias G?rtner @ik and Mattias Thanks for your replays. For me it is easy and…
Zaher Dirkey wrote
The problem Lazarus after first install start with Arabic and with mixed with English words that not translated, and with some funny translated words. That make Bad points for Lazarus for a newbies students and teachers.

Why not create your own custom setup.exe that doesn't ship with the Arabic translation. Or, is it not possible to pass a parameter to startlazarus.exe or lazarus.exe telling it which language to use? Then modify the setup.exe to create shortcut with that parameter (though removing Arabic translation file is probably less effort).

Lazarus uses INNO setup which you can download freely off the net so you can create your own setup.exe file. The INNO setup scripts and information file (*.iss) is located in <laz>/tools/install/ directory.

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/

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Zaher Dirkey
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2010/1/29 ik

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I completely understand. in Hebrew for example there are two more problem, one is that every time I tried to translate something, something messed the order of the translation up. And many people did not like the fact that it speaks Hebrew rather English because they dislike mixing technical words in native language. So most of them that installing Lazarus and Hebrew is their locale, they either stop using Lazarus or switch immediately to English. That's why I stopped translating things.

Yes ik that exactly my pain.

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 10 lines
Why not create your own custom setup.exe that doesn't ship with the Arabic translation. Or, is it not possible to pass a parameter to startlazarus.exe or lazarus.exe telling it which language to use? Then modify the setup.exe to create shortcut with that parameter (though removing Arabic translation file is probably less effort). Lazarus uses INNO setup which you can download freely off the net so you can create your own setup.exe file. The INNO setup scripts and information file (*.iss) is located in <laz>/tools/install/ directory.

If i want to distribute a link to download last version of Lazarus then i must upload that setup to my site and my bandwidth will run out. also what if some one try to download it from the offical site of Lazaurs.

I have the same problem when redistribute FirebirdSQL setup include Arabic language and FlameRobin to my customers.

SY, Zaher Dirkey
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