Hi,

For those users that want to browse Kylix 3 IDE (for whatever reason)
- maybe to port one or more features to Lazarus IDE (lets think positive), or to compare and see how great Lazarus IDE has become. Or to compare the Kylix compiler to the Free Pascal compiler for compatibility reasons etc. I have made my copy of Kylix 3 Open Edition available to everybody. I included in the archive my activation file and some unofficial fixes.

Kylix 3 Open Edition is the freely available one for GPL based software development. I still see numerous requests for Kylix 3 Open Edition on various internet forums - though I always recommend FPC and Lazarus to them. I couldn't find any active location on the internet to download Kylix 3 OE, so looked through my old archive CD's and found it. I also emailed Borland and Embarcadero, because you cannot use Kylix 3 OE if you don't activate it, and the activation URL mentioned in the Kylix 3 product doesn't exist any more - but neither Borland nor Embarcadero has the facility any more to activate the product (no surprise there) - hence the reason I made my activation file available too.

This is they typical reason I HATE any activation software - perfectly legal software that becomes useless because the vendor went out of business or the product got discontinued. Also, SourceForge.net has numerous projects developed with Kylix 3 OE, but cannot continue any more because Kylix 3 OE is not available for download.

If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of a more public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I have a serious limit on internet bandwidth.

Borland cannot complain - Kylix 3 Open Edition was free for all to start with. I purchase Kylix 3 Pro and Kylix 3 Enterprise from them (though these copies or not for public download obviously) so they already got my money (and what a waist it was). I hate to see projects like on SourceForge wither and die because the development tools are not available for download.

am Graeme Geldenhuys wrote

Hi, For those users that want to browse Kylix 3 IDE (for whatever

reason)

- maybe to port one or more features to Lazarus IDE (lets think positive), or to compare and see how great Lazarus IDE has

become. Or

Open

Edition on various internet forums - though I always recommend

FPC and

Lazarus to them. I couldn't find any active location on the internet to download Kylix 3 OE, so looked through my old archive CD's

and

found it. I also emailed Borland and Embarcadero, because you

cannot

use Kylix 3 OE if you don't activate it, and the activation URL mentioned in the Kylix 3 product doesn't exist any more - but

neither

Borland nor Embarcadero has the facility any more to activate

the

product (no surprise there) - hence the reason I made my

activation

file available too. This is they typical reason I HATE any activation software -

perfectly

legal software that becomes useless because the vendor went

out of

business or the product got discontinued. Also, SourceForge.net

has

numerous projects developed with Kylix 3 OE, but cannot

continue any

more because Kylix 3 OE is not available for download. If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of

a more

public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I

have

they

already got my money (and what a waist it was). I hate to see

projects

like on SourceForge wither and die because the development

tools are

not available for download.

In the following site

http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/
http://download.borlandforum.com/delphi/

you may find Kylix and Delphi related files open to public .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

Hi,

You can publish the file in the 4shared.

Thanks

2010/1/5 Graeme Geldenhuys :

If you ever need a copy, email me in private and I'll send you the download URL. It's about a 97MB download. If anybody knows of a more public location I can upload this file to, please let me know - I have a serious limit on internet bandwidth.

I'm interested in testing Kylix. What are the system requirements? Will it run on SuSE 8.2?

AFAIK Kylix and the applications require old kernels - or is it only the IDE that has problems with nowadays Linux?

DoDi

It contains additional files to supply missing libraries and other useful parts for some Linux distributions . Therefore all of the files are not directly related to Kylix . I think the whole file is supplied by the Borland which is not a collection prepared by the supplier site .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

2010/1/5 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk :

Ah, I did not know about that site. I have available Kylix 1 OE and Kylix 3 OE. The activation still remains a problem though. Without activation you cannot start the IDE. My activation file is only for Kylix 3 OE though - I haven't tried it on K1 (it might work or not).

I'll add the above URLs to a my personal wiki site so I don't forget. (or simply search the Lazarus mailing list archives from now onwards) :-)

2010/1/5 Hans-Peter Diettrich :

I'm interested in testing Kylix. What are the system requirements? Will it run on SuSE 8.2?

It should. From the K3 readme file it is certified for SuSE 7.3 - I tried it with SuSE 9.0 without any issues. Even the GUI install ran (which I think I have only managed 3 times since K3 was released). :)

AFAIK Kylix and the applications require old kernels - or is it only the IDE that has problems with nowadays Linux?

I believe that problem is only related to the Kylix IDE, not to the applications you create with Kylix. The IDE was some hybrid-WINE application and close ties to the Linux kernel, not a native CLX app. I guess that's a partial testament to how much faith Borland had in CLX to not even use it for the IDE. If they did, CLX would probably have been a lot more stable.

2010/1/5 Guionardo Furlan :

Hi, You can publish the file in the 4shared.

Kylix 3 Open Edition can be download from the following URL.

http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/Kylix3Open/

I attached my activation file. After your installed Kylix and BEFORE you run Kylix, copy the reg92.txt file into your $HOME directory.

2010/1/5 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk :

In the following site http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/

I only noticed now, that version of Kylix 3 Open Edition is 333MB, my download (which I originally got from Borland) is only 97MB.

2010/1/5 Guionardo Furlan :

You can publish the file in the 4shared.

Doing a Google search for the exact name like I download from Borland, I now seem to get a few active links.

http://bin-login.name/ftp/pub/Linux/software/kylix3_open.tar.gz (91MB)

This is the same as my original download from Borland. The link Mehmet Erol Sanliturk posting is a 333MB download link - I don't know why there is such a huge size difference on that site.

In my other post to this thread is the activation file you need too.

i can confirm the original tar.gz is only some 90M in size... i just hunted up the old mini-CD i saved it to when i downloaded it back around August 2003... i also have the 2nd update for it which is only 215K... IIRC, it includes the 1st update but i really don't recall at this time... sadly, i don't think i can get to my activation file which is on a very old 486 based linux server that's been dead for a number of years now :?

i have to wonder what they have in their offering at borlandforum... maybe the sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so as i'm pulling it now just to see ;)

2010/1/6 waldo kitty :

up the old mini-CD i saved it to when i downloaded it back around August 2003... i also have the 2nd update for it which is only 215K... IIRC, it

Yes, I have that update too. Nice and small.

sadly, i don't think i can get to my activation file which is on a very old 486 based linux server that's been dead for a number of years now :?

I had to search though a lot of old archive CD's with numerous duplicates of my Kylix 3 pro and ent. licenses. Eventually I found the Open Edition license file. Thank goodness for backups.

Speaking of old hardware. I just put together my "universal converter" system. It consists of my very first PC I ever owned (486-DX2) which is still in working order. I salvaged the 5.25" floppy drive and a 3.5" diskette drive. Rebuilt it into a slightly newer casing with a P75 chip and added a DVD-ROM drive and some 64MB memory. Now I can read my old floppy disks (if I ever felt the need) :-) I'll keep this system for historic purposes.

the sources to kylix? hummm... we'll find out in an hour or so as i'm pulling it now just to see ;)

Please let us (or at least me) know what's in there.

On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:14:50 -0500, waldo kitty wrote about Re: [Lazarus] Kylix 3 Open Edition:

Hi Mark,

My guess is that Borland/Inprise/Embarcadero/whatever developers have statically linked the Qt support routines.

KDE and Qt have changed out of sight in the 6 or 7 years since Kylix was alive. I will bet dollars to doughnuts that the old binaries will not run on a modern KDE system, so the old Qt libraries were simply incorporated statically into some new binaries.

Of course, I could be wrong. ... :-)

[BTW, how is your card game coming along? Contact me off-list if you want some interesting code.]

as far as i can tell, the archive is as large as it is due to a lot of libs being included... there is definitely numerous Qt related files and a whole lot of .so files... there's also a few src folders, as well... and some patches for various linux releases and at least one for Qt...

i don't know if it is statically compiled or not but it does appear that they included all the libs necessary for it to work... i can't tell much more because i'm snooping in the tar.gz with 7zip on a windows box :?

FWIW: the archive is dated Aug 2002 which is a year earlier than the archive i grabbed when i grabbed mine from them...

Guionardo Furlan wrote

Hi, You can publish the file in the 4shared.

I uploaded it to 4shared. This archive includes the minor fix updates (installed separately by user) and activation file. It is available at:

http://www.4shared.com/file/196615736/a4e740ae/kylix3_openeditiontar.html (92MB)

Other locations are:

http://bin-login.name/ftp/pub/Linux/software/kylix3_open.tar.gz (92MB) http://download.borlandforum.com/kylix/Kylix3Open/ (330MB)

Regards,
- Graeme -

Dear all,

I was told and found in some internet publications that a book "Lazarus" (authors Michael van Canneyt, Matthias G?rtner and others) shall be published in september 2009. I asked in my bookstore but they don't have it.

Can anybody say how to order?

Thanks in advance

Thomas

take a look here:
http://www.cul.de/lazarus.html

Hi,

The book is currently still being overhauled by the editors.

(I just got another mail from them with some questions regarding the text...)

As soon as it is out, we'll send out some news :-)

Michael.

2010/1/17 Michael Van Canneyt :

As soon as it is out, we'll send out some news :-)

Is it still only going to be in German language?

Unless you're willing to do the translation effort: yes; German only.

I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Michael.

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

Unless you're willing to do the translation effort: yes; German only.

OK, fair enough. Unfortunately my German is not very good - I already have a hard time reading the Toolbox articles. :)

Regards,
- Graeme -

I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Feel free to contact me, if you need assistance.

DoDi

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

I have sort of obtained permission to publish it in english, but translating 600+ pages is not easily done.

Great! I didn't know about it.

One thing that should make it easier is that most originals are in english, so you can start with those originals and only translate what was changed in the german version. It will still be a huge amount, but much less.

The German version is quite different from the original english version. I've had numerous revisions mailed to me. (today again 2)

Let's first get the German version finished, that will be hard enough. I've spent already far more time on this book than I ever imagined.

Then I'll talk again to the editors: I said 'sort of obtained' in my original mail: That means that nothing is fixed or decided yet; So all this is highly unofficial and completely subject to the decision of the editors.

Michael.