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Lazarus 0.9.26, 0.9.26.1, 0.9.26.2, 0.9.27 ou 0.9.28? (Silvio Clécio)

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Silvio Clecio

Hello Friends,

Few days I published this topic, how ignorant I was :( .

I did not know about GTK, QT... With that, I was limited to what was native. Today, after I learned about widget, I can choose what I feel nice.

Thanks for the understanding, and excuse me for the inconvenience caused by the topic, my now vision about Lazarus that he is the best opensource solution for development desktop (I still see the Lazarus building to internet ;) ).

Forgives some typos, I'm adapting to the language of you.

[]'s, Silvio Cl?cio --- Linux User: #481900 Gmail, GTalk: E-mail, Y! Messenger: BlogSite: http://silvioprog.blogspot.com/ BlogSpot: http://silvioclecio.blogspot.com/ VirtualDriver: http://silvioprog.4shared.com/ ?oO| Be free, use Linux! |Oo?

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Lance Collins
to Silvio Clecio

Hi Silvio,

I hope you don't mind a short language lesson. (As a mono-lingual person I admire your courage posting here)

You should have written:

Few days I published this topic, how ignorant I was :(

A few days ago....

. I did not know about GTK, QT... With that, I was limited to what was native. Today, after I learned about widget, I can choose what I feel nice.

Fairly good. 'nice' is not quite right here. OK for food & people, artistic things but not for widgets perhaps, 'I can choose what I like' is better. 'I can choose what I feel IS nice' is grammatically correct but is not how a native English speaker would normally put it.

Thanks for the understanding, and excuse me for the inconvenience caused by the topic, my now vision about Lazarus that he is the best opensource solution for development desktop (I still see the Lazarus building to internet ;) ).

'my vision is now that Lazarus is the best.....'

And I can't quite see what you mean here >> 'I still see the Lazarus building to internet '

Forgives some typos, I'm adapting to the language of you.

Forgive some typos, I'm adapting to your language.

Cheers
Lance

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Adrian Veith
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> Thanks for the understanding, and excuse me for the inconvenience > caused by the topic, my now vision about Lazarus that he is the best > opensource solution for development desktop (I still see the Lazarus > building to internet ;) ). 'my vision is now that Lazarus is the best.....'

you forgot: '... for desktop development'

And I can't quite see what you mean here >> 'I still see the Lazarus building to internet '

I guess: 'I am looking forward to build Internet applications with Lazarus'

Cheers,

Adrian.

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Silvio Clecio
to Lance Collins: I hope you don't mind a short language lesson. (As a mono-lingual person I admire your…
Lance Collins wrote
Hi Silvio, I hope you don't mind a short language lesson. (As a mono-lingual person I admire your courage posting here)

[en]No problems ;-) .[en]

[br]Sem problemas ;-) .[br] > And I can't quite see what you mean here >> 'I still see the Lazarus > building to internet ' [en]... one day I will see internet applications written with Lazarus.[en] --- [br]... um dia eu vou ver aplica??es para Internet escritas com Lazarus.[br] -- []'s, Silvio Cl?cio --- Linux User: #481900 Gmail, GTalk: E-mail, Y! Messenger: BlogSite: http://silvioprog.blogspot.com/ BlogSpot: http://silvioclecio.blogspot.com/ VirtualDriver: http://silvioprog.4shared.com/ ?oO| Be free, use Linux! |Oo?

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Silvio Clecio
to Adrian Veith: you forgot: '... for desktop development' I guess: 'I am looking forward to build…
Adrian Veith wrote
I guess: 'I am looking forward to build Internet applications with Lazarus'

Yes, it may be that too. ;-)

Thanks for help of all.

[]'s, Silvio Cl?cio --- Linux User: #481900 Gmail, GTalk: E-mail, Y! Messenger: BlogSite: http://silvioprog.blogspot.com/ BlogSpot: http://silvioclecio.blogspot.com/ VirtualDriver: http://silvioprog.4shared.com/ ?oO| Be free, use Linux! |Oo?

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Silvio Clecio
to Silvio Clecio: [en]No problems ;-) .[en] [br]Sem problemas ;-) .[br] [en]... one day I will see internet…
Silvio Clecio wrote 17 lines
Em 29/7/2009 02:26, Lance Collins escreveu: > Hi Silvio, > > I hope you don't mind a short language lesson. (As a mono-lingual person > I admire your courage posting here) [en]No problems ;-) .[en] -- [br]Sem problemas ;-) .[br] > And I can't quite see what you mean here >> 'I still see the Lazarus > building to internet ' [en]... one day I will see internet applications written with Lazarus.[en] --- [br]... um dia eu vou ver aplica??es para Internet escritas com Lazarus.[br]

I forgot to thank. thanks friend ;-) .

[]'s, Silvio Cl?cio --- Linux User: #481900 Gmail, GTalk: E-mail, Y! Messenger: BlogSite: http://silvioprog.blogspot.com/ BlogSpot: http://silvioclecio.blogspot.com/ VirtualDriver: http://silvioprog.4shared.com/ ?oO| Be free, use Linux! |Oo?

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Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos
to Silvio Clecio: Yes, it may be that too. ;-) Thanks for help of all. []'s, Silvio Cl?cio --- Linux User:…

2009/7/29 Silvio Clecio

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Em 29/7/2009 07:47, Adrian Veith escreveu: > I guess: 'I am looking forward to build Internet applications with > Lazarus' >

See extpascal.googlecode.com

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Giuseppe Luigi Punzi
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El jue, 30-07-2009 a las 08:50 -0300, Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos escribi?:

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2009/7/29 Silvio Clecio Em 29/7/2009 07:47, Adrian Veith escreveu: I guess: 'I am looking forward to build Internet applications with Lazarus' See extpascal.googlecode.com

Somebody nows how the license of ExtJS apply to ExtPascal?

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos: 2009/7/29 Silvio Clecio See extpascal.googlecode.com Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos (061)…
Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos wrote 9 lines
2009/7/29 Silvio Clecio > Em 29/7/2009 07:47, Adrian Veith escreveu: > >> I guess: 'I am looking forward to build Internet applications with >> Lazarus' >> > See extpascal.googlecode.com

Well! This is a nice surprise !
Now I can drop the Intraweb option and use FPC all the way :-)

Thanks for pointing this out, this looks like a great project. I must definitely do some studying and write an article about it :-)

Michael.

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Silvio Clecio
to Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos: 2009/7/29 Silvio Clecio See extpascal.googlecode.com Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos (061)…
Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos wrote
See extpascal.googlecode.com <http://extpascal.googlecode.com>

I already knew the project ExtPascal, but I still do not know how to use it.

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Hess, Philip J
to Silvio Clecio

Please see reply #11 in this topic for a bit more background:

http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,6802.0.html

Thanks.

-Phil

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-----Original Message----- From: Silvio Clecio [mailto:] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:43 AM To: Lazarus mailing list Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus 0.9.26, 0.9.26.1, 0.9.26.2, 0.9.27 ou 0.9.28? (Silvio Cl ?cio) Em 30/7/2009 08:50, Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos escreveu: > See extpascal.googlecode.com <http://extpascal.googlecode.com> I already knew the project ExtPascal, but I still do not know how to use it. -- []'s, Silvio Cl?cio --- Linux User: #481900 Gmail, GTalk: E-mail, Y! Messenger: BlogSite: http://silvioprog.blogspot.com/ BlogSpot: http://silvioclecio.blogspot.com/ VirtualDriver: http://silvioprog.4shared.com/ ?oO| Seja livre, use Linux! |Oo? --

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Michael Van Canneyt: Well! This is a nice surprise ! Now I can drop the Intraweb option and use FPC all the…
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 5 lines
>> > See extpascal.googlecode.com Well! This is a nice surprise ! Now I can drop the Intraweb option and use FPC all the way :-)

Holly crap, did you see the GUI Designer as well?
http://www.projectspace.nl/

Wow, web programming sure changed since I last did anything serious with it. :)

Regards,
- Graeme -

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Bee
to Graeme Geldenhuys
Holly crap, did you see the GUI Designer as well? ?http://www.projectspace.nl/

Did you know that we are on ExtPascal project is about to build Delphi-like environment for web application development? It's more or less like Lazarus or Morfik, but running as web application to create RIA. But, we're now still on very early stage, still need a looongg way to reach the real goal. Any interested developers are more than welcomed to join us. ;)

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Bee: I thought I had promoted about this in this list long time ago. But nobody seemed…
Bee wrote 5 lines
> Thanks for pointing this out, this looks like a great project. I must > definitely do some studying and write an article about it :-) I thought I had promoted about this in this list long time ago. But nobody seemed interested. :P

I must have missed it, or my brain was switched off... :-)

With the GUI designer and a good back-end, this looks promising indeed.

The extjs_toolkit looks also very promising, then we can design in our favourite editor. All we need is a pascal-to-javascript converter for client-side scripting and we have morfik totally for free :-)

Time for some holidays so I can do some serious studying on this, and maybe even start to contribute :-)

Michael.

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Bee
to Michael Van Canneyt
The extjs_toolkit looks also very promising, then we can design in our favourite editor. All we need is a pascal-to-javascript converter for client-side scripting and we have morfik totally for free :-)

We've been talking about pas-to-js converter as well. Initial work has been done on Powtils project (PasJS subproject). Unfortunately, there's nobody interested to continue the work. If you're willing to continue it, we thank you very much.

Time for some holidays so I can do some serious studying on this, and maybe even start to contribute :-)

Sounds like a good news to me. Current status of ExtPascal still has some little problems with threading in unix platform. Some works had been done to eliminate the problem, but somehow there are still some glitches here and there. Another contributor to help us solve the problem would be great.

Thank you for your interest to this project. We're looking forward for your contributions. :)

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Michael Van Canneyt
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> The extjs_toolkit looks also very promising, then we can design in our > favourite editor. All we need is a pascal-to-javascript converter for > client-side scripting and we have morfik totally for free :-) We've been talking about pas-to-js converter as well. Initial work has been done on Powtils project (PasJS subproject). Unfortunately, there's nobody interested to continue the work. If you're willing to continue it, we thank you very much.

It's more likely that I will build it from scratch, because the pasjs subproject is not based on the FPC scanner/tokenizer in fcl-passrc.

In general, I don't use the powtils project because it's mostly procedural.

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> Time for some holidays so I can do some serious studying on this, and > maybe even start to contribute :-) Sounds like a good news to me. Current status of ExtPascal still has some little problems with threading in unix platform. Some works had been done to eliminate the problem, but somehow there are still some glitches here and there. Another contributor to help us solve the problem would be great.

Hm. Why not ask questions on the mailing lists ?

Thank you for your interest to this project. We're looking forward for your contributions. :)

Well, we are on the brink of starting web development in my company, and till now, it looked like Morfik was going to be it. Now that I've seen extpascal, I may shift to that - still need to study it more in-depth. If that is the case, you may expect contributions.

Michael.

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Bee
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It's more likely that I will build it from scratch, because the pasjs subproject is not based on the FPC scanner/tokenizer in fcl-passrc.

No problem.

In general, I don't use the powtils project because it's mostly procedural.

I used to be Powtils users too. There are many projects I've made using Powtils. But since I found ExtPascal, I slowly but sure move to ExtPascal. The main problem with Powtils is we need to also learn HTML, CSS, and JS, which sometimes become barrier to me. I don't mean that we don't need to know about them, but I consider them just like assembler on pascal. We need to know about it only for advanced optimization, but we don't need it for common operation.

Hm. Why not ask questions on the mailing lists ?

I did. But since the main author of ExtPascal prefers to work on Delphi and Windows environment and nobody in the team now has expertise on multithreading in Unix platform, the progress is pretty slow.

Well, we are on the brink of starting web development in my company, and till now, it looked like Morfik was going to be it. Now that I've seen extpascal, I may shift to that - still need to study it more in-depth.

I have made one web application using ExtPascal that is already on production since last year. It works and performs quite well.

If that is the case, you may expect contributions.

I hope you'll choose ExtPascal so we could have your contributions. :)

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Guionardo Furlan
to Lance Collins: I hope you don't mind a short language lesson. (As a mono-lingual person I admire your…

UHAUHAUHAUHAU, mais um brasileiro que escreve ingl?s como ?ndio. Valeu a sexta-feira.
Silvio, n?o me leve a mal, acho que eu escrevo pior.

Poor and ugy translation: An brazilian writing like indian. LOL. And other brazilian with bad english too.

2009/7/29 Lance Collins :

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Hi Silvio, I hope you don't mind a short language lesson. ? (As a mono-lingual person I admire your courage posting here) You should have written: > Few days I published this topic, how ignorant I was :( A few days ago.... > ?. > > I did not know about GTK, QT... With that, I was limited to what was > native. Today, after I learned about widget, I can choose what I feel nice. Fairly good. ? ?'nice' is not quite right here. ?OK for food & people, artistic things but not for widgets perhaps, ? ?'I can choose what I like' is better. ? 'I can choose what I feel IS nice' is grammatically correct but is not how a native English speaker would normally put it. > Thanks for the understanding, and excuse me for the inconvenience caused > by the topic, my now vision about Lazarus that he is the best opensource > solution for development desktop (I still see the Lazarus building to > internet ;) ). 'my vision is now that Lazarus is the best.....' And ?I can't quite see what you mean here >> ?'I still see the Lazarus building to internet ' > > Forgives some typos, I'm adapting to the language of you. Forgive some typos, I'm adapting to your language. Cheers Lance -- _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
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Silvio Clecio
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Guionardo Furlan wrote 6 lines
UHAUHAUHAUHAU, mais um brasileiro que escreve ingl?s como ?ndio. Valeu a sexta-feira. Silvio, n?o me leve a mal, acho que eu escrevo pior. Poor and ugy translation: An brazilian writing like indian. LOL. And other brazilian with bad english too.

Kkk... :-D

Sim, e a discuss?o tomou um rumo positivo.
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Poor translation: Yes, and the discussion took a positive direction.

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