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wrong icon choice in Project Inspector

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Graeme Geldenhuys

Hi,

With my last svn update, I noticed a few more icons have been added to screens. I personally think the icon used in the "Remove" button in the Project Inspector is wrong.

The red icon normally associated with ERROR. For Add/Remove more applications use icons of the same colour. Blue or Green circles with
+ or - signs.

So I recommend the red icon in "Remove" button be changed to a green icon with a - sign. Thoughts?

Regards,
- Graeme -

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Graeme Geldenhuys
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I forgot to attach the screenshot...

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 17 lines
Hi, With my last svn update, I noticed a few more icons have been added to screens. I personally think the icon used in the "Remove" button in the Project Inspector is wrong. The red icon normally associated with ERROR. For Add/Remove more applications use icons of the same colour. Blue or Green circles with + or - signs. So I recommend the red icon in "Remove" button be changed to a green icon with a - sign. Thoughts? Regards, - Graeme -

Regards,
- Graeme -

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Graeme Geldenhuys: With my last svn update, I noticed a few more icons have been added to screens. I…
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 12 lines
Hi, With my last svn update, I noticed a few more icons have been added to screens. I personally think the icon used in the "Remove" button in the Project Inspector is wrong. The red icon normally associated with ERROR. For Add/Remove more applications use icons of the same colour. Blue or Green circles with + or - signs. So I recommend the red icon in "Remove" button be changed to a green icon with a - sign. Thoughts?

Definitely not green. Remove is negative, and negative is red.

If you absolutely must take the same color, red or green are bad colors, since they have too much connotations.

Michael.

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Martin Friebe
to Graeme Geldenhuys: I forgot to attach the screenshot... - Graeme -…
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 16 lines
> Hi, > > With my last svn update, I noticed a few more icons have been added to > screens. I personally think the icon used in the "Remove" button in > the Project Inspector is wrong. > > The red icon normally associated with ERROR. For Add/Remove more > applications use icons of the same colour. Blue or Green circles with > + or - signs. > > So I recommend the red icon in "Remove" button be changed to a green > icon with a - sign. Thoughts? > > Regards, > - Graeme - >

I think red for delete is the correct color.

Red definitely isn't associated to "error" only.

- XP, and Vista use red for the close button on each window.
- Firefox uses it for closing tabs. (cross platform)
- Internet Explorer and Firefox using a red cross to stop loading a page.
- Thunderbird uses a red cross for deleting addresses or mail
- Evolution has red buttons for stop/cancel (which is not an error indication)

I agree there are apps that use other colors for delete (some also use other symbols: trash can instead of minus).
IMHO that shouldn't say that either side is right or defining a standard. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Michael Van Canneyt: Definitely not green. Remove is negative, and negative is red. If you absolutely must…
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 5 lines
Definitely not green. Remove is negative, and negative is red. If you absolutely must take the same color, red or green are bad colors, since they have too much connotations.

Then use a neutral colour - Blue? Blue would be my preferred choice - as that is what we use in our applications. :-)

See attached screenshot for a sample... Similar styled buttons are also used in the Editor Toolbar | Configure screen. In that case, it's just blue arrow icons.

Regards,
- Graeme -

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wile64
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2008/9/17 Graeme Geldenhuys

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On 9/17/08, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > Definitely not green. Remove is negative, and negative is red. > > If you absolutely must take the same color, red or green are bad > colors, since they have too much connotations. Then use a neutral colour - Blue? Blue would be my preferred choice - as that is what we use in our applications. :-) See attached screenshot for a sample... Similar styled buttons are also used in the Editor Toolbar | Configure screen. In that case, it's just blue arrow icons.

In this case, I prefer just the sign + and -

like this

Laurent. "If debugging is the art of removing bugs, then programming must be the art of creating!" My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/attachments/20080917/2e667ca4/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: add-delete.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1580 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/attachments/20080917/2e667ca4/attachment.jpg

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Paul Ishenin
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In this case, I prefer just the sign + and - like this

They are better than current.

Btw, do you have something better that current arrow_down and arrow_up in project options?

Best regards,
Paul Ishenin.

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Michael Van Canneyt
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wile64 wrote: > > > In this case, I prefer just the sign + and - > > like this They are better than current.

I also think that the + and - are a better choice than the current one. Maybe these ones can be used ?

Michael.

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wile64
to Paul Ishenin: They are better than current. Btw, do you have something better that current arrow_down…

2008/9/18 Paul Ishenin

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wile64 wrote: > > > In this case, I prefer just the sign + and - > > like this They are better than current. Btw, do you have something better that current arrow_down and arrow_up in project options?

You don't like my chosing? button or glyph ?

Laurent. "If debugging is the art of removing bugs, then programming must be the art of creating!" My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/attachments/20080918/07dec460/attachment-0001.html

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wile64
to Michael Van Canneyt: I also think that the + and - are a better choice than the current one. Maybe these ones…

2008/9/18 Michael Van Canneyt

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Paul Ishenin wrote: > wile64 wrote: > > > > > > In this case, I prefer just the sign + and - > > > > like this > They are better than current. I also think that the + and - are a better choice than the current one. Maybe these ones can be used ?

Changed in r16633

Laurent. "If debugging is the art of removing bugs, then programming must be the art of creating!" My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/pipermail/lazarus/attachments/20080918/73b2d904/attachment.html

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Paul Ishenin
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wile64 wrote
Changed in r16633

Ow. I thought you will replace add.png and delete.png in lazarus/images to use them in all lazarus dialogs. And, btw, why you added images to the form? We used run-time image loading for easier image change (there is no need to change all forms if we will use another image set).

for an example.

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Paul Ishenin.

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Reenen Laurie
to Graeme Geldenhuys

Traditionally a red circle with a white minus on it means "no entry"... (road signs (in my country anyway))

So having the normal + and - sounds good to me.

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 22 lines
2008/9/17 wile64 : > > In this case, I prefer just the sign + and - > > like this And they are blue! :-) I think your example is more appropriate than the circle with a + or - sign. Regards, - Graeme - _______________________________________________ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _______________________________________________ Lazarus mailing list http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus
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