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Mandrake 9

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Tony Maro
to andrew johnson: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:52:12 +0100 I've been force to upgrade. It is. Oh is it ever. I…

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It is. Oh is it ever. I thought KDE 1 was the worst, slowest thing ever. I was wrong. I thought pre-GNOME 1.0 was unstable. It looks the pinacle of stability next to 2. Oh and its ugly too. I liked the GTK 1.x default theme, and there were at least plenty of themes too choose from. ;/ Sorry for the non-Lazarus related rant... but arrgh.

Hehe - sorry didn't mean to start the desktop wars ;-)

But, I agree with Andrew - it's pretty bad. I'm becoming very partial to KDE in the last 24 hours...

So, Andrew, when are you going to do a QT port of Lazarus widgets? LOL

-Tony

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andrew johnson
to Tony Maro: I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running... All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big…
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Tony Maro wrote: >Well, > >I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running... > >All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big time. Now I know why >everyone was >complaining. My semi-transparent panels are gone and I can't get >rid of >that crappy bar at the top. It's KDE for me, baby! > >So, I should have Lazarus back installed by tomorrow... > It can't be THAT bad.

I've been force to upgrade.

It is. Oh is it ever. I thought KDE 1 was the worst, slowest thing ever. I was wrong. I thought pre-GNOME 1.0 was unstable. It looks the pinacle of stability next to 2.

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Don't know about semitransparent panels, but I can get rid of the top panel quite easily. Just right click and select Delete this panel... Anyway, the version of GNOME2 included is intended mainly for developers. GNOME 2.2 is supposed to be the one for users as well.

I can only hope you are right. My bone is that 2 was touted to be faster cleaner stabler.. it doesn't even come close on any of the areas. Example. I am running it on a system with 1Ghz 512Mb Ram, 64Mb graphics. It takes 3 minutes too start GDM. Oh sure thats only the first time. after that its fast. But I shouldn't have too login in over and over again, so who cares how fast it is the second/third time! I feel like I am stuck in Win95.. except that was better. When I first tried it I figured it was because it was a developers release. Now I have tried the latest Stable AND Unstable, with several computers and I see no improvements whatsoever except that now there are even more programs too crash. And what the is Metacity! it crashes every time I close a non GTK program, and sometimes for no reason whatsoever!

Oh and its ugly too. I liked the GTK 1.x default theme, and there were at least plenty of themes too choose from. ;/

Sorry for the non-Lazarus related rant... but arrgh.

Andrew

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John Zitterkopf
to andrew johnson
andrew johnson wrote
It is. Oh is it ever. I thought KDE 1 was the worst, slowest thing ever. I was wrong. I thought pre-GNOME 1.0 was unstable. It looks the pinacle of stability next to 2.

Does anyone know if anyone has developed RPMs to replace Gnome2.0 w/ a better V1.x version on Gnome?

I installed Mandrake9 myself; but quickly went back (I had a backup copy) to Mandrake 8.2 because Gnome2 suxed so bad.

Does anyone have experience compiling Gnome1.x and know where I could get the complete sources?

I really wanted to use Mv8, but won't until Gnome2.x is equal or better than 1.x.

John

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Michal Bukovjan
to Tony Maro: I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running... All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big…
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:52:12 +0100 "Michal Bukovjan" wrote : >Tony Maro wrote: > >>Well, >> >>I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running... >> >>All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big time. Now I know why >>everyone was >>complaining. My semi-transparent panels are gone and I can't get >>rid of >>that crappy bar at the top. It's KDE for me, baby! >> >>So, I should have Lazarus back installed by tomorrow... >> > >It can't be THAT bad. I've been force to upgrade. It is. Oh is it ever. I thought KDE 1 was the worst, slowest thing ever. I was wrong. I thought pre-GNOME 1.0 was unstable. It looks the pinacle of stability next to 2. >Don't know about semitransparent panels, but I can get rid of the >top panel quite easily. Just right click and select Delete this >panel... > >Anyway, the version of GNOME2 included is intended mainly for >developers. GNOME 2.2 is supposed to be the one for users as well. I can only hope you are right. My bone is that 2 was touted to be faster cleaner stabler.. it doesn't even come close on any of the areas. Example. I am running it on a system with 1Ghz 512Mb Ram, 64Mb graphics. It takes 3 minutes too start GDM. Oh sure thats only the first time. after that its fast. But I shouldn't have too login in over and over again, so who cares how fast it is the second/third time! I feel like I am stuck in Win95.. except that was better. When I first tried it I figured it was because it was a developers release. Now I have tried the latest Stable AND Unstable, with several computers and I see no improvements whatsoever except that now there are even more programs too crash. And what the is Metacity! it crashes every time I close a non GTK program, and sometimes for no reason whatsoever!

Hmm, none of this appears on my machine...
For me, it is indeed way faster and looks much better than GNOME 1.x. But your mileage obviously varies...

Metacity or any GNOME2 app has yet to crash on me... But maybe it is because I use updated packages for GNOME from Cooker, don't know...

Michal

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Michal Bukovjan
to Tony Maro: I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running... All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big…
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Well, I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running... All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big time. Now I know why everyone was complaining. My semi-transparent panels are gone and I can't get rid of that crappy bar at the top. It's KDE for me, baby! So, I should have Lazarus back installed by tomorrow...

It can't be THAT bad.

Don't know about semitransparent panels, but I can get rid of the top panel quite easily. Just right click and select Delete this panel...

Anyway, the version of GNOME2 included is intended mainly for developers. GNOME 2.2 is supposed to be the one for users as well.

Michal

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Tony Maro

Well,

I installed Mandrake 9.0 and got it running...

All I have to say is, Gnome 2.0 sux big time. Now I know why everyone was complaining. My semi-transparent panels are gone and I can't get rid of that crappy bar at the top. It's KDE for me, baby!

So, I should have Lazarus back installed by tomorrow...

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