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Michael A. Hess wrote 14 lines
Greetings, Could one of you guys out there give me and overview from your point of view as the open sourceness of Kylix? I just want another sane head to give me a perspective before I make a fool of myself on the show. My take: 1. The Kylix class libraries will be available. Now does that mean they are open source as in usable by anyone? In other words can you make commercial apps from them? Exactly what is the license of Kylix?

The class libraries are open source... you're free to do with them what you want... I don't know what you'd do with them, but they're there if you want them.

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2. The IDE of Kylix is not open source and the code will not be made available. Am I correct on this one or have I missed something???

No, the code is no available, but it will be free.

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I belive you are correct, however they have not finalized anything, so it's really an unknown.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael A. Hess" To: "Lazarus-List" Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: [lazarus] Can someone more familiar with Kylix verify... > Greetings, > > Could one of you guys out there give me and overview from your point of > view as the open sourceness of Kylix? I just want another sane head to > give me a perspective before I make a fool of myself on the show. > > My take: > > 1. The Kylix class libraries will be available. > > Now does that mean they are open source as in usable by anyone? > In other words can you make commercial apps from them? > Exactly what is the license of Kylix? > > 2. The IDE of Kylix is not open source and the code will not be > made available. > > Am I correct on this one or have I missed something??? > > > Just please someone else give me their point of view. > > -- > ==== Programming my first best destiny! ==== > > Michael A. Hess Miracle Concepts, Inc. > http://www.miraclec.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe: mail with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject > archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus

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Michael A. Hess

Greetings,

Could one of you guys out there give me and overview from your point of view as the open sourceness of Kylix? I just want another sane head to give me a perspective before I make a fool of myself on the show.

My take:

1. The Kylix class libraries will be available.

Now does that mean they are open source as in usable by anyone? In other words can you make commercial apps from them? Exactly what is the license of Kylix?

2. The IDE of Kylix is not open source and the code will not be made available.

Am I correct on this one or have I missed something???

Just please someone else give me their point of view.

==== Programming my first best destiny! ==== Michael A. Hess Miracle Concepts, Inc. http://www.miraclec.com

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Marco van de Voort
to Unknown author: The class libraries are open source... you're free to do with them what you want... I…
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> My take: > > 1. The Kylix class libraries will be available. > > Now does that mean they are open source as in usable by anyone? > In other words can you make commercial apps from them? > Exactly what is the license of Kylix? > The class libraries are open source... you're free to do with them what you want...

As long as it isn't commercial. You may only use it for educational purposes and in non-commercial environments.

[B> I don't know what you'd do with them, but they're there if

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you want them. > 2. The IDE of Kylix is not open source and the code will not be > made available. > > Am I correct on this one or have I missed something??? > > No, the code is no available, but it will be free.

De code is not available AND it will not be free. The library is dual licensed, and therefore the IDE is not necessarily GPL software too.

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Michael A. Hess wrote 9 lines
Greetings, Could one of you guys out there give me and overview from your point of view as the open sourceness of Kylix? I just want another sane head to give me a perspective before I make a fool of myself on the show. My take: 1. The Kylix class libraries will be available.

Yes.

Now does that mean they are open source as in usable by anyone?

Yes. They come under a DUAL GPL & Borland-No Nonsense license, meaning you can create open source apps with it if you want. Remark this is NOT the Library GPL, a point that should be stressed. So libraries created with the GPL version can not be linked to a commercial app.

In other words can you make commercial apps from them?

Yes, if you have a license of Kylix, you can use the sources under the Borland No-Nonsense license.

Exactly what is the license of Kylix?

The IDE, I don't know. The CLX comes, as I stated, under a dual GPL -'Borland no-nonsense'
license. People that have a commercial license of Kylix will be able to use the no-nonsense license version.

(That is what it states in the source files of the CLX, at least)

2. The IDE of Kylix is not open source and the code will not be made available.

As far as I know, this is correct. It also goes for their midas technology, and dbexpress. But I am not 100% sure of this point. It would be good if you could find this out, BTW.

Am I correct on this one or have I missed something???

I think this is correct. Based on the Kylix version I have and the sources I have browsed (they're 1 week old), that is.

One thing to remark is that FPC's RTL and FCL come under a modified LGPL license that explicitly allows them to be used for commercial projects as well (which is NOT so for the plain LGPL, and definitely not for the GPL).

Michael.

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