That is correct. Why ? the wep pages at borland say that the libraries will be open…
PM wroteWhy ? the wep pages at borland say that the libraries will be open source, the IDE will not be open source.
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...there will be also a free version -- look at:
http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,26771,00.html
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alex
well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end
of
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the month.
i will miss borland when they go under.
their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or
1499CDN)
i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales
returns.
in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their
1.0
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out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop.
Go Lazarus!
moose.
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interesting.... i was cruising all the other press releases, and some said flat out that…
mooseman wroteinteresting.... i was cruising all the other press releases, and some said flat out that they would not release the ide under open source.
That is correct.
either i misread it apparently, or maybe they changed their mind at some point and the web pages got out of sync.
Why ? the wep pages at borland say that the libraries will be open source, the IDE will not be open source.
Michael.
...there will be also a free version -- look at:…
interesting.... i was cruising all the other press releases, and some said flat out that they would not release the ide under open source. either i misread it apparently, or maybe they changed their mind at some point and the web pages got out of sync.
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...there will be also a free version -- look at:
http://community.borland.com/article/0,1410,26771,00.html
br
alex
> well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end
of
> the month.
> i will miss borland when they go under.
>
> their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or
> 1499CDN)
> i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales
returns.
>
> in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their
1.0
> out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop.
>
> Go Lazarus!
>
> moose.
>
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interesting.... i was cruising all the other press releases, and some said flat out that they would not release the ide under open source. either i misread it apparently, or maybe they changed their mind at some point and the web pages got out of sync.
The IDE is not Open source. The binaries are free, but the source code is probably not even available. And the free version has the license (juridical) limitation that you can't do anything commercial with it. (and even have to GPL your own sources if you want to distribute programs.)
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On 02/02/2001 at 8:38 PM wrote:
>Why ? the wep pages at borland say that the libraries will be open source,
>the IDE will not be open source.
>From what I gather, the IDE isn't open source, but it will be freely
downloadable or purchaseable on CD for $99 (mid 2001). You can use the
IDE to build open source (GPL) apps, including the CLX libraries, but
you cannot sell any products made with it. So, you can use the IDE,
but you do not get the source to it.
A pity. It still has a lot of bugs; it would be good to have a peek at the sources.
But on the whole the Kylix IDE is very good; It _IS_ 100% Delphi, (and it _DOES_ use wine, contrary to what some people said) The produced executables do not use wine, but they do use a lot of libraries:
/lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x40015000) libqtintf.so => /opt/delphi/bin/libqtintf.so (0x40017000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401ec000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x402bc000) libdl.so.2 => /opt/delphi/bin/libdl.so.2 (0x402cf000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x402d2000)
libqt.so.2 => /opt/delphi/bin/libqt.so.2 (0x403b6000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40a7d000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40a8b000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40a95000) libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40aad000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40acc000)
Looks like the library version problem will be even worse than it is on Windows. I even had to patch my latest suse system to get it to work :/
Michael.
interesting.... i was cruising all the other press releases, and some said flat out that…
ok, perhaps i misread the other posting that someone put up saying there would be a boxed open source distribution for $99. from the reading on that page, i took it to be everything including ide, but you could not sell you work.
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, mooseman wrote:
> interesting.... i was cruising all the other press releases, and some said
> flat out that they would not release the ide under open source.
That is correct.
> either i misread it apparently, or maybe they changed their mind at some
> point and the web pages got out of sync.
Why ? the wep pages at borland say that the libraries will be open source,
the IDE will not be open source.
Michael.
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