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kylix shipping the end of Feb...

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Alexandr A. Alexandrov
to Florian Klaempfl: There is some rumour in German newstickers that there will be a free Kylix version for…

Hello!

You wrote
>in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten >their 1.0 out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on >the stoop.

FK> There is some rumour in German newstickers that there will be a free FK> Kylix version for Open Source development.

Borland says Kylix will be $99 on CD, and free thru inet download...

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Jon Cochran
to mooseman: well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i…

Actually, there will be a totally free version..... IDE/CLX, and even their database setup. Only catch is you can't charge for what you develop with it.

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the clx yes. the ide no. At 11:35 PM 1/30/2001 +0100, you wrote: >At 13:38 01.02.01 -0800, you wrote: >>well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end >>of the month. >>i will miss borland when they go under. >> >>their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or >>1499CDN) >>i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales >> returns. >> >>in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their >>1.0 out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop. > >There is some rumour in German newstickers that there will be a free >Kylix version for Open Source development. > > >_________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe: mail with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject > archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe: mail with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus
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Robert Scott Horning
to mooseman: well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i…

Dang it... I thought I saw it somewhere else. I remember somebody suggesting that there was an open source initiative of some sort that was building the IDE that I saw on the Project JEDI web pages.

Check out:

http://delphree.clexpert.com/

for some interesting free software projects that are using object pascal (although most of this development is currently using Delphi rather than Free Pascal, but I digress right now). Interestingly enough.... Lazarus is mentioned. I hope (and maybe I really do hope) that Lazarus was that interface, but I may be mistaken. I can't seem to find it.

BTW, is it just me or is something fishy that all references to the JEDI web pages have been taken from the Borland web site. The only references that I can find right now are a couple of press releases that mention JEDI (from back when they were really pushing the "community" connection sites). I found the web pages, but I had to use Google. What kind of PR campaign is going on now?

Jon Cochran wrote 10 lines
Actually, there will be a totally free version..... IDE/CLX, and even their database setup. Only catch is you can't charge for what you develop with it. On Thursday February 01 2001 06:30 pm, mooseman wrote: > the clx yes. the ide no. -- /------------------------------ /Jon Cochran /
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Jon Cochran
to mooseman: well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i…

It's kinda sad really. I've owned every delphi since D2, and Borland has always hooked their customers up with an upgrade price. Not this time it would seem.

mooseman wrote 21 lines
well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i will miss borland when they go under. their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or 1499CDN) i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales returns. in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their 1.0 out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop. Go Lazarus! moose. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe: mail with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus
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Marco van de Voort
to mooseman: well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i…
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well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i will miss borland when they go under. their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or 1499CDN)

Develoopers don't care much about that, I think the problem will be more deployability and speed of the system. Even if they make money with it, they only choose their target group so small that there will be room enough for FPC/Lazarus.

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Florian Klaempfl
to mooseman: well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i…
you wrote 10 lines
well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i will miss borland when they go under. their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or 1499CDN) i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales returns. in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their 1.0 out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop.

There is some rumour in German newstickers that there will be a free Kylix version for Open Source development.

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mooseman
to mooseman: well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month. i…

the clx yes. the ide no.

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At 13:38 01.02.01 -0800, you wrote: >well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end >of the month. >i will miss borland when they go under. > >their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or >1499CDN) >i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales returns. > >in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their >1.0 out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop. There is some rumour in German newstickers that there will be a free Kylix version for Open Source development. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe: mail with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus

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mooseman

well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of the month.
i will miss borland when they go under.

their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or 1499CDN)
i can't see them making up their costs on the sure to be poor sales returns.

in any case, it is good news for lazarus! borland may have gotten their 1.0 out the door first, but i think it will remain standing on the stoop.

Go Lazarus!

moose.

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mooseman
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i suppose that if you work for a larger software house that doesn't matter. as a small developer, i can tell you it matters to me. everything must have a reasonable rate of return.

i guess as a side observation, as others have noted, my past business with borland seems to be forgotten.
no upgrade pricing etc.

anyways, i am out of buffer space for my O.T. rant

;-)

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> well, it would seem borland is going to attempt to sell kylix at the end of > the month. > i will miss borland when they go under. > > their pricing is plain nuts (the lower package - desktop dev is 999USD or > 1499CDN) Develoopers don't care much about that, I think the problem will be more deployability and speed of the system. Even if they make money with it, they only choose their target group so small that there will be room enough for FPC/Lazarus. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe: mail with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus

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