A long time ago, I was also thinking about providing a translated version of the FPC web site but I don't think that this is necessary. A serious programmer has to known enough English to read at least the English of a web site.

I think a translated lazarus is more important especially the menus because this leads to other shortcuts. Example: In German programs the file is "Datei" thus you can activate the file menu with "Alt-D" instead of "Alt-F" . I don't know how often I used already the wrong shortcut. And the stupid thing is that "Alt-F" activates the window menu because window is "Fenster" in German ...

+ From: Florian Klaempfl
+
+ I think a translated lazarus is more important especially the
+ menus because this leads to other shortcuts. Example: In German
+ programs the file is "Datei" thus you can activate the file menu
+ with "Alt-D" instead of "Alt-F" . I don't know how often I used
+ already the wrong shortcut. And the stupid thing is that "Alt-F"
+ activates the window menu because window is "Fenster" in German ...

:) Thats why I don't like to work with localized (dutch) SW. (Alf-F, X doesn't work)

Marc

I've made new version of fd2lcl program, which make lazarus usefull right now. You can download source here. But you should go to its homepage here.

Where?

True.
I am not a serious programmer nor likes I the English, but I can read a Web site. Of as much writing "Text", "And", "Or", etc. already I know that it means. Normally I read the version in English because is more complete and does not have translation errors, but the translations are important because by means of them it is arrived at all public.

Also when a project is very important, like this one, they appear sites that make the work by you.
I think that the projects must have links towards sites of the same type, but with another content, language, etc.

I've made new version of fd2lcl program, which make lazarus usefull right now.
You can download source� here.
But you should go to its homepage here.

Greetings,

I was wondering if the translations of the Lazarus web site are useful and if they are needed. The reason I ask is simple. I just received some updated translations in French. After installing them I wanted to check and make sure I had them correct. Lo and behold what did I find. I find that none of the translations were working. Not only were they not working but they had not been working for almost 3 months. That is about how long ago it was that I had made the code changes that broke it. In that whole time no one complained.

So I ask, is this something I should be spending my time on or is it just a waste of my time????

Hello,

i wonder if it is planned to publish a compiled version of lazarus for win32 and linux. I know, the project is still under developpement. But i am conviced this could be very apreciated by a lot of people.
Personnaly, i managed to compile under win32, after having tried several times with no success.
I tried to compile also under linux, and it does'nt work. There is always something missing ;o) i know i just need to read the faq... and everything will be ok. But it is a hard step before to enjoi lazarus.

So, would'nt it be possible to publish one compiled version on the web site, sometimes ? Or do you prefere to wait for a certain version ?

I think it would be very nice.

Alexis.

Then, start CVS'ing.

FoodTechnologist wrote

How often do you usially update web page? It is seems to be so outdated. So, user can't know should he update his version or to post fixes.

The status page is outdated and practically useless at this point. You can get more information from the documentation which is built nightly from the current source.

Other than that everything else is somewhat dynamic and updated as often as possible and necessary. What portion of the site are you refering to?

Pavlovic Ivan wrote

Is Serbian translation needed? If so, then please send me the material and I'll try to translate it ASAP... cu l8r

Sure, bring it on. The more the merrier.

Go to the main page of the web site ("Welcome") and then scroll to the bottom of the page for the information.

Homepage is at http://www.ussr.to/Russia/vvi/fd2lcleng.html

Hmm, maybe it is smart to add this to the FPC contrib page?

How often do you usially update web page? It is seems to be so outdated. So, user can't know should he update his version or to post fixes.

Now I've updated it again. New components added and menu bug fixed. You should go to http://www.ussr.to/Russia/vvi/fd2lcleng.html to download.

Luis R. Hilario �����:

I'll test it and write an answer (or, may be, fix) tomorrow.

> How Can I send To you A French Translated Page Of your Site ???

MAH> Please check the one that already exists first. I just received updated MAH> pages for the French version a few days ago.

Is Serbian translation needed? If so, then please send me the material and I'll try to translate it ASAP... cu l8r

Hi,

I was playing with his program and found an error.

"luis.fd" complete:

Magic: 13000

Internal Form Definition File
(do not change)

Number of forms: 1
Unit of measure: FL_COORD_PIXEL

=============== FORM ===============
Name: Luis
Width: 320
Height: 250
Number of Objects: 7

--------------------
class: FL_BOX
type: UP_BOX
box: 0 0 320 250
boxtype: FL_UP_BOX
colors: FL_COL1 FL_COL1
alignment: FL_ALIGN_CENTER
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_BLACK
label:
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback:
argument:

--------------------
class: FL_BUTTON
type: NORMAL_BUTTON
box: 110 200 80 30
boxtype: FL_UP_BOX
colors: FL_INACTIVE FL_DARKORANGE
alignment: FL_ALIGN_CENTER
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_DARKVIOLET
label: Button
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback: Button1Click
argument: 0

--------------------
class: FL_TEXT
type: NORMAL_TEXT
box: 10 20 90 30
boxtype: FL_FLAT_BOX
colors: FL_COL1 FL_MCOL
alignment: FL_ALIGN_LEFT|FL_ALIGN_INSIDE
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_BLACK
label: Hola!
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback:
argument:

--------------------
class: FL_CHECKBUTTON
type: PUSH_BUTTON
box: 60 100 110 30
boxtype: FL_NO_BOX
colors: FL_COL1 FL_YELLOW
alignment: FL_ALIGN_CENTER
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_BLACK
label: Button
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback:
argument:

--------------------
class: FL_CHECKBUTTON
type: PUSH_BUTTON
box: 60 140 110 30
boxtype: FL_NO_BOX
colors: FL_COL1 FL_YELLOW
alignment: FL_ALIGN_CENTER
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_BLACK
label: Button
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback:
argument:

--------------------
class: FL_INPUT
type: NORMAL_INPUT
box: 130 30 160 40
boxtype: FL_DOWN_BOX
colors: FL_COL1 FL_MCOL
alignment: FL_ALIGN_LEFT
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_BLACK
label: Input
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback:
argument:

--------------------
class: FL_ROUNDBUTTON
type: PUSH_BUTTON
box: 170 110 130 30
boxtype: FL_NO_BOX
colors: FL_MCOL FL_YELLOW
alignment: FL_ALIGN_CENTER
style: FL_NORMAL_STYLE
size: FL_DEFAULT_SIZE
lcol: FL_BLACK
label: Button
shortcut:
resize: FL_RESIZE_ALL
gravity: FL_NoGravity FL_NoGravity
name:
callback:
argument:

==============================
create_the_forms

"luis.pp" incomplete:

unit luis;
{$mode delphi}
interface
uses classes,forms,controls,sysutils,graphics,stdctrls,extctrls,
     comctrls,buttons,menus;
type TLuis=class(TForm)
   Button1:TButton;
   Label1:TLabel;
   CheckBox1:TCheckBox;
   CheckBox2:TCheckBox;
   Edit1:TEdit;
   Button1:TRadioButton;
   public
   procedure Button1Click(Sender:TObject);
   constructor Create(AOwner:TComponent);override;
   end;

As it is possible to be seen, "Button1" is duplicated.

FoodTechnologist wrote

I've made new version of fd2lcl program, which make lazarus usefull right now. You can download source here. But you should go to its homepage here.

How Can I send To you A French Translated Page Of your Site ???

I'd like to point out that that even if the documentation isn't 100% up-to-date, (such as being a year or so old), it is still better than nothing. So go ahead and translate the stuff now, and if you have time to keep the documentation current, please do so, but don't feel that you are pressured to keep it up. Do something now and in the future somebody else will probably be able to help out... thanking you for the work you have already started.

BTW, although English is probably the most common language on the internet, don't feel that you can't write original documentation in another language. You may find out that it could be translated to english fairly quickly as well. And don't assume that Americans don't understand other languages, but I would say that I would feel more at ease to translate something into English than to translate from English to another language.

Homepage is at http://www.ussr.to/Russia/vvi/fd2lcleng.html

Date forwarded: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:16:25 -0500
Date sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:16:05 +0300
From: FoodTechnologist
To:
Subject: Re: [lazarus] New version of fd2lcl published!!! Forwarded by:
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i try to download the binary fd2lcl.gz but it fail when i want to decompress it !

Lionel Drevon
Adeli http://www.adeli.fr
618 Av. Gal de Gaulle Tel 04 78 66 11 85
69760 Limonest Fax 04 78 66 04 33

May be...

Marco van de Voort �����:

It is impossible: I have internet access in University (as a part of its stuff) through proxy,
and suitable system is must move data through floppies.

Michael A. Hess �����:

As for me, I'ld like to have something as separated changelog list (for example, cleared once 5 months or so). I'ld like not to download big files every day or two (as I have very poor indirect (with floppy transform) chanal).

Emmanuel" wrote

How Can I send To you A French Translated Page Of your Site ???

Please check the one that already exists first. I just received updated pages for the French version a few days ago.

It has been suggested that I don't have the selection of alternate translations in an obvious enough location so I will work on moving it into a position that can be more readily seen.