Hi Everyone

I've been following the Lazarus list server for over a year, and I wanted to kind of step up to the plate here for a minute to share my two cents...

I'm Senior Programmer at a small firm located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (USA) and I've seen many long term projects through to fruition. I wanted to take the opportunity here to say that, it is NORMAL for long-term projects, such as this one, to have "cool" periods where there is little discussion or apparent activity.

In the case of open source projects such as this, everyone has a 'real job' and a 'real life' to live, and sometimes you need a break. THIS DOES **NOT** MEAN THAT LAZARUS IS DIEING. This means that the geniuses behind lazarus need to take a break and come back refreshed. The worst thing for a project on a large scale like this to burn out the key players. They've been programming their tails off for more than a year on this, and burnout does happen.

SO I want everyone to keep this in mind as you see periods of apparent inactivity... Its unfair to the developers, and the project in general, to declare anything even close to the words DIEING or STAGNATING to this project. If anything, NOW is the time for others to step up to the plate and visit some of the issues that are outstanding. It also gives us testers some time to pay attention to finding more bugs to be squashed.

In conclusion, I emplore everyone reading this to bear in mind these facts, and choose your words carefully. I would not want to even IMPLY anything negative about this project without real hard factual evidence. A lull in a listserver does not factually state a projects health. An implication such as this could adversely affect the project by unfairly diverting attention... and we ALL lose when that happens.

FInally I just want to say THANKS AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK to Stephen, Marc, Shane, and all the others who have brought this project along this far.

== Ron DeFulio

Hi

Hi The "organized" bit is something Lazarus need !!

Any suggestions from your side? Since you're a relatively new on the list you may have a better perspective than some of us.

From my point of view it looks like this:

- We need a strategy-paper where some basic things are written down. (E.g I think of the current code using the "IntSendMessage" function although some time ago there was a discussion about using virtual functions in the interface class instead. As far as I know there has never been a decision about this topic and some parts of the code have been changed while most of the code still uses the SendMessage stuff)
- It would be nice to have a kind of moderator who'll try to a) maintain the above mentioned strategy-paper
b) coordinate development activities

And the last couple of days the mailing list has been empty and somehow it feels like Lazarus is going down ?! Or maybe it's holiday part of the year.

Besides holiday time, some people (including me) seem to have a lot of other work to do.

By the way, I wrote/writing the TestAll app and I finds alot of buggs/missing functions. I don't know how to handle the bug report and whom I shall post it to ??

You can report bugs on the web. If you have patches you can send them to me.

I like this project and I hope it's will work on !!

I'm sure it will.

Stefan

The "organized" bit is something Lazarus need !! And the last couple of days the mailing list has been empty and somehow it feels like Lazarus is going down ?! Or maybe it's holiday part of the year.

I think (hope) its the hollidays.

By the way, I wrote/writing the TestAll app

I hadn't the time to this moment Im feighting some crases I introduced with some graphic stuff. To be more precice, my new code isn't crashing, but some old incomplete parts which didn't get called up till now.

and I finds alot of buggs/missing functions. I don't know how to handle the bug report and whom I shall post it to ??

You can post them to me, but what's the problem with the bugtracking system ?

Some buggs is eritten down into the testallform.pp file where they happens and so on.. I could start to look at some bugs, but I want to finish the TestAll app first and it take some time :-)

Thats OK

I like this project and I hope it's will work on !!

Same here.

Marc

Hey everybody,

I've been on a work-imposed leave from the Lazarus project. I'm hoping that I can get back to working on it. However if I am going to do that I think that we need to get a bit (alot) more organized.

We need to track things that we want to do, the order they need to be done and who's doing them.

Currently we all are simply doing whatever we feel like it. I think we need to get organized otherwise this project could start to fall by the wayside.

Anyone have suggestions on how to do this? We should set something up on a web site and perhaps every week or two get a developer chat going to discuss issues, etc....

Thoughts?

Shane Miller

Hi

The "organized" bit is something Lazarus need !!
And the last couple of days the mailing list has been empty and somehow it feels like Lazarus is going down ?!
Or maybe it's holiday part of the year.

By the way, I wrote/writing the TestAll app and I finds alot of buggs/missing functions. I don't know how to handle the bug report and whom I shall post it to ??
Some buggs is eritten down into the testallform.pp file where they happens and so on..
I could start to look at some bugs, but I want to finish the TestAll app first and it take some time :-)

I like this project and I hope it's will work on !!

Chris