Here is the output now from glade after a few more little mods. It is now a lfm file hmmm....

Cliff

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<Lazarus-Interface>

<widget>
<class>GtkWindow</class>
<name>window1</name>
<title>window1</title>
<type>GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL</type>
<position>GTK_WIN_POS_NONE</position>
<modal>False</modal>
<allow_shrink>False</allow_shrink>
<allow_grow>True</allow_grow>
<auto_shrink>False</auto_shrink>

<widget>
<class>Placeholder</class>
</widget>
</widget>

</Lazarus-Interface>