At 13:31 07-04-2000 -0500, Baeseman, Cliff wrote: >Probably should wait to make sure that the make files are correct first. It >seems that alot of people are having trouble building yet.

I second that :-). An announcement is a greak idea and badly needed but it's not a good idea to make newbies hit their heads against brick wall just because the howtos were not up to date and tested.

One thing about the howto. The Linux FAQ says that you don't need /etc/ppc386.cfg. That's true based on how my install went a week or so ago but I keep seeing developers using this file and mentioning it. So which one is it? :-)

If /etc/ppc386.cfg is really unnecessary, developers should stop using it. Otherwise we may have makefiles that work fine with the core developers but not on fresh installs.

I'm working on a new makefile set so his should be fixed soon. After that someone should check if the howtos work for an ordinary cvs user.

I could check both the Linux- and Win32-howtos when they are updated. Just beep me and I'll have a look with a fresh install.

/jarto

Cliff wrote

Probably should wait to make sure that the make files are correct first. It seems that alot of people are having trouble building yet.

I'm working on a new makefile set so his should be fixed soon. After that someone should check if the howtos work for an ordinary cvs user.

Marc

Marc Weustink wrote

After that someone should check if the howtos work for an ordinary cvs user.

I'm going over them now.

the ppc386.cfg is not needed per-se, but can be used to customize the behaviour of Free Pascal on a system-wide scale. e.g. if your 'as' and 'ld' binaries are not in custom places, or the gcc library or whatever.

If /etc/ppc386.cfg is really unnecessary, developers should stop using it. Otherwise we may have makefiles that work fine with the core developers but not on fresh installs.

The reading of ppc386.cfg can be disabled by adding '-n' to the compiler options. Personally, when I test the makefiles I always add 'OPT=-n' to the make command line, like in
make cycle OPT=-n
then you get the result of what is in the makefile. You could decide to put the -n option in the command-line options of the makefiles of course.

Michael.

Shane Miller wrote

What is everyone's opinion on releasing a quick "blurb" about Lazarus on Slashdot or FreshMeat, etc.? Anyone think we shouldn't yet?

Now that you have the Speedbutton thingy done I am ready. I would like to do one thing first. I still need to go through the HowTos and modify them to see what has changed with regards to the new location of .inc files. I don't think anything has changed but I want to be sure. When I have that modified then I think we are ready to update Freshmeat. I want everything ready as much as possible so if we get people checking things out they won't be asking questions just because we have some info posted wrong.

The LCL is trying to be as Delphi compatible as possible. That being the case we try to match unit and class names whenever possible so that existing Delphi code can be used with little change. The above sentence means that if Delphi doesn't already have a component that performs this function for you to pattern after then create a new unit and include files for this new component.

Please check the HowTo's again and checkout exactly what you are trying to get. If you haven't checked anything out since before the cvs server change then your CVSROOT and various information will all be wrong. You will have to edit all of your files in the /CVS directories. A WHOLE lot has changed since this switch so I would suggest you get rid of whatever you have on your machine and checkout everything brand new.

Hello:

I haven't updated Lazarus since a month ago because I had troubles to compile and I can't help too much (and too much of work in my job) so I still have to try the current status.

But I think it's people like me (poor boys, that are not directly envolved in it's development) who should say go ahead.

Update the howtos and make files, and in week people of this list, beside developers, we'll say "go ahead, even an idiot like me can taste it"

Congratulations, you've done quite a good work.
A high level development tool is what Linux needs to became OS for final users, not only for servers.

Regards
Santiago Amposta

What is everyone's opinion on releasing a quick "blurb" about Lazarus on

Slashdot or

FreshMeat, etc.? Anyone think we shouldn't yet? Shane

Thank you, Mr. Hess. I basically configured everything (per Sergios How To 0.6 ;) and it worked like a charm. I still can't checkout the gtk sources, do you know where they are? Or better yet, do you know a cvs command that will spit out the names of all the modules available?

TIA
MikeZ.

Probably should wait to make sure that the make files are correct first. It seems that
alot of people are having trouble building yet.

Cliff Baeseman
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Marc Weustink wrote

I'm working on a new makefile set so his should be fixed soon.

Let me know when you have them fixed. I am then going to attempt to follow the HowTo step by step to a clean machine and see if I can get everything to work correctly.

What is everyone's opinion on releasing a quick "blurb" about Lazarus on Slashdot or FreshMeat, etc.? Anyone think we shouldn't yet?

Shane

>> 04/07/00 12:58PM >>>

I added code for SetCapture, ReleaseCapture and GetCapture.

This now allows the Speedbuttons to pop back up when you move out of them.

Shane

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"Mike Z." wrote

I still can't checkout the gtk sources, do you know where they are?

The gtk is now a part of packages. Do a checkout of "packages". That will get you gtk, mysql, postgres, zlib, etc. etc. etc.

"Mike Z." wrote

I basically configured everything (per Sergios How To 0.6 ;)

I just realized what you indicated above. This must mean you have not been to the web site to get your information. I say that because the HowTo would have given you an indication where the gtk files are located.

Hello:

lazarus.fpc.org, on the 'how to participate' page states:

'If Delphi doesn't have this control already, you will need to create a new unit
^^^^^^
and include...'

Is that accurate?

I've been out of the loop for quite a while and realised that the cvs server has changed. I switched the server to cvs.freepascal.org but when trying to checkout or update lazarus I get:

cvs server: cannot find module `lazarus' - ignored CVS.EXE [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules

(that's under Win32, of course)

I get similar errors trying to retrive anything (gtk, fcl, etc). Any suggestions?

TIA
Mike