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Lazarus at freshmeat and publicity in general

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Michael A. Hess
to Jarto Tarpio: I just checked www.freshmeat.net for the status of Lazarus:…
Jarto Tarpio wrote
Last announcement is from July 28th. Judging from the version number (0.1) and date Lazarus is a ship dead in water.

We are aware of this issue. Up until now we didn't have much to announce. True work has been going on but there wasn't much to show. Most people when they hit a site such as Lazarus want to see screen shots of the product. We really didn't have any because so much of the work dealt with the invisible. Now that more work is being done on the actual IDE interface we have more to show and are in reality farther along.

I am waiting for one more feature to be finished by Shane and then I will be making new announcements on Freshmeat and everywhere else that I can find a receptive ear.

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The problem is that there are many skillful Delphi programmers who don't know about Lazarus. Many of them create freeware and open source components and there's a big chance that many would love to contribute. That's why we should make sure people know what Lazarus is and that it's actively developed.

This is a nice idea in theory but it doesn't seem to hold water. We have what amounts to a constant readership of over 200+ on the mailing list. This number has not wavered for over a year. Yet you see how many people actually contribute to the project. We have a core of around 7 coders but only 2 to 3 of us tend to be available at any given time.

In the last 2 days the web site has had a 300%+ increase in traffic. The visits in the last 2 days accounts for 25% of the whole months traffic. So where are the emails from all of these people asking about helping?

Don't get me wrong I will start to do alot more shouting and announcing in the next few days or week but I am not optomistic about the additional help it might bring. :-\

==== Programming my first best destiny! ==== Michael A. Hess Miracle Concepts, Inc. http://www.miraclec.com

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Florian Klaempfl
to Jarto Tarpio: I just checked www.freshmeat.net for the status of Lazarus:…
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Jarto Tarpio wrote: > > Last announcement is from July 28th. Judging from the version > number (0.1) and date Lazarus is a ship dead in water. We are aware of this issue. Up until now we didn't have much to announce. True work has been going on but there wasn't much to show. Most people when they hit a site such as Lazarus want to see screen shots of the product. We really didn't have any because so much of the work dealt with the invisible. Now that more work is being done on the actual IDE interface we have more to show and are in reality farther along. I am waiting for one more feature to be finished by Shane and then I will be making new announcements on Freshmeat and everywhere else that I can find a receptive ear.

Can't you simple write that the project isn't dead?

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Jarto Tarpio

I just checked www.freshmeat.net for the status of Lazarus:

http://www.freshmeat.net/search.php3?query=lazarus

Last announcement is from July 28th. Judging from the version number (0.1) and date Lazarus is a ship dead in water. I know that's not the case but how should people who have not subscribed know it? Also the homepage points to www.pcpros.net/~vbman/ . It does redirect to lazarus.freepascal.org but it should be updated anyway.

We're really not making Lazarus known at the moment. Inprise is doing a way better job even thoug they started later. The problem is that there are many skillful Delphi programmers who don't know about Lazarus. Many of them create freeware and open source components and there's a big chance that many would love to contribute. That's why we should make sure people know what Lazarus is and that it's actively developed.

It's a good idea to release doing that we get
more testers, publicity and even developers. Do it every two months for example. It's also a good idea to contact maintainers of popular Delphi pages (like http://torry.spang.org) and send them articles or ask if they could link to http://lazarus.freepascal.org. These pages are visited by Delphi programmers and those are our primary target.

Regards

Jarto Tarpio

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