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Corel will buy Borland!!

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Kevin Berry

I believe that there is already a Borland Pascal
command line compiler built for Linux. I'd speculate that they're working on the VCL stuff at the moment, and they already have an IDE (JBuilder Foundation, although they will have to update it for Object Pascal two-way tools stuff). Since they've already talked about a mid-year release for C++Builder and Delphi on Linux I don't think they'd back off now (even if Corel has bought them). I'd bet that Delphi for Linux will still be more popular than C++Builder for Linux.
After all, there are a number of C++ tools out there already... And look and Borland's Linux survey
results, more people wanted Delphi for Linux than C++ Builder. I've also seen a survey that was posted on the Linux.com site a while back (not Borland's survey) where there was an almost unanimous vote count in
favour of Delphi for Linux (the next tool had a third of the number of votes I believe).

Cheers,
Kevin.

--- Florian Klaempfl wrote 49 lines
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Carl Eric Codere wrote: > > > > > Greetings, > > Apart from investment purposes, i don't see how > > you can consider this good news for us, I'm sorry, unless > > they start using our compiler for Delphi!! They will > > definitely support linux, that means, it's byebye for > > us , no???????? Except if we support other processors... I don't think so! Remember the upcoming changes for us: K8 Merced ... > > or get hired by them! > > I seriously doubt that last thing. > > But other than that, I agree. Corel is quite open-source minded; > I think it is quite likely that they will release Delphi under > an open-source license, creating direct competition for us. I would prefer an open source Delphi. We could compile the VCL with FPC. But I still doubt if they'll make a Delphi for Linux. JBuilder and C++ Builder, yes, but Delphi? But maybe we could suggest now Corel a cooperation ... > > My guess is that they will release the developer tools for free, > and use them to create their own (paying) applications, because > there is no money to be made on developer tools...

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Michael Van Canneyt wrote 10 lines
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Carl Eric Codere wrote: > > Greetings, > Apart from investment purposes, i don't see how > you can consider this good news for us, I'm sorry, unless > they start using our compiler for Delphi!! They will > definitely support linux, that means, it's byebye for > us , no???????? Except if we support other processors...

I don't think so! Remember the upcoming changes for us: K8 Merced ...

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> or get hired by them! I seriously doubt that last thing. But other than that, I agree. Corel is quite open-source minded; I think it is quite likely that they will release Delphi under an open-source license, creating direct competition for us.

I would prefer an open source Delphi. We could compile the VCL with FPC. But I still doubt if they'll make a Delphi for Linux. JBuilder and C++ Builder, yes, but Delphi?

But maybe we could suggest now Corel a cooperation ...

My guess is that they will release the developer tools for free, and use them to create their own (paying) applications, because there is no money to be made on developer tools...

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Kevin Berry

--- Michael Van Canneyt

Which doesn't mean that it's easy. On the contrary :-) Michael.

As we all know... I haven't even got it to compile yet :-( But I think the problem was caused by me
trying to delete an installation of FPC without
actually removing the package... It seems that the configuration is all messed up and I haven't had a chance to dig into it deeper. I'm considering
re-installing Linux and FPC etc.

Kevin.

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Kevin Berry: I believe that there is already a Borland Pascal command line compiler built for Linux. …
Kevin Berry wrote
I believe that there is already a Borland Pascal command line compiler built for Linux.

Maybe there is. The C++ compiler works on linux a long time already, and it shares the same backend with Delphi, so that part is ready.

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I'd speculate that they're working on the VCL stuff at the moment, and they already have an IDE (JBuilder Foundation, although they will have to update it for Object Pascal two-way tools stuff). Since they've already talked about a mid-year release for C++Builder and Delphi on Linux I don't think they'd back off now (even if Corel has bought them).

There was talk of that even back in summer last year; they knew perfectly that the merge was going to happen; (it's not something you decide overnight, after all) so I don't think they will back off. they were dead serious about making delphi when I talked to them, so unless the suits decide otherwise, the developers will make Delphi for linux happen.

Which doesn't mean that it's easy. On the contrary :-)

Michael.

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