I have only one comment what did you use to do this?. I need to convert a whole bunch of PDF files..

Looks and works very nice.

Cliff

Hopefully, we don't get that problem with our IDE :)

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

> My Netscape 4.5 displays only incomplete/messed up pages (IE 5.0 works fine). Netscape 4.6 does it fine. Did you enable fonts and style sheets ?

Yes, but Java* is off

I put it on specially to view it; because Java in Netscape is a huge memory leak;
I must shut down Netscape after a couple of minutes if a java app is running...

Michael.

Marc Weustink wrote

eehhh.... a bit less blue perhaps. I'm blinded

That tells me you have never looked at the PDF docs either. This has been the screen for them for almost 9 months. :-)

Cliff wrote

I have only one comment what did you use to do this?. I need to convert a whole bunch of PDF files..

It is a product called Magellan by BCL. I'm afraid it isn't a freebie. It isn't overly priced and support seems to be good. I have already had to work with them to fix a problem involving ligatures in the FPC Manuals. They modified the program and sent me a new build.

Here is the link to their site http://www.bcl-computers.com

They have also instituted a new free service that will convert various documents into HTML for you. It isn't indicated but I would think that the FPC manuals would be a little more than what they would want to do for free. ;-) (the final output is over 1,500 files and 6.8 Meg)

Here is the site for free conversions. http://www.gohtm.com

I haven't tried it but it is by the same people using the same tool.

I purchased the tool because I am in need of doing alot of this kind of stuff with other projects as well. :-)

Michael A. Hess wrote

Greetings,

[ docs ]

http://www.miraclec.com/fpcmanuals Feedback is appreciated. :-)

eehhh.... a bit less blue perhaps. I'm blinded

Marc

If it's in the cvs i'll take a look at it

Peter

It doesn't, html version 3.2 hasn't that features. But you can convert the docs under linux using free tools.

Peter

Netscape 4.6 does it fine. Did you enable fonts and style sheets ?

Michael.

+ From: Michael A. Hess
+
+ Marc Weustink wrote:
+ >
+ > eehhh.... a bit less blue perhaps. I'm blinded +
+ That tells me you have never looked at the PDF docs either. This has
+ been the screen for them for almost 9 months. :-)

Ah, was it THAT page.

Marc

+ From: Peter Vreman

+ At 01:54 29-10-99 , I wrote:
+ >I Just added my latest changes. It compiles, but results in
+ a linking error:
+ > Linking ./lazarus
+ > controls.o: In function `_CONTROLS$$_$$_TWINCONTROL_$$_CREATEWND':
+ > controls.o(.text+0x13cc): undefined reference to `L680'
+ > controls.o(.text+0x13d9): undefined reference to `L680'
+ > controls.o(.text+0x13de): undefined reference to `L681'
+ > Warning: Error while linking
+ >Don't know what this is.
+ If it's in the cvs i'll take a look at it

It is

Marc

Just had a quick look Netscape 4.7 seems OK

Marc

Greetings,

I suppose some have been wondering what I have been up to. Well I have been working with Michael C. building HTML version of the FPC Manuals. I have converted the PDF versions into an HTML version using a tool I have acquired. The HTML uses CSS and DHTML to present the content. It does it in such as way that the HTML files appear like PDFs, act like PDFs, and can be navigated like PDFs.

I still have some tweeking to do to the conversion of the references manuals but I would like others to look at it and make sure they find this usable before I put to much more effort into it. Since it uses CSS and DHTML it does require the use of Netscape or IE.

I will also be adding my search engine to the mix so that it will have full text search capability just like the PDF version. Here is the URL to look at the manual. This is also something we can do to the Lazarus documentation when we start getting more formal with it.

http://www.miraclec.com/fpcmanuals

Feedback is appreciated. :-)

Peter Vreman wrote

Using latex2html works also again. The problem was the html version which must be 3.2 and not 3.0.

True but then you don't get any of the navigation features such as the bookmarks from the PDF. You also don't get the formating that this provides since latex2html doesn't build DHTML and CSS. Or does it??

I Just added my latest changes. It compiles, but results in a linking error: Linking ./lazarus
controls.o: In function `_CONTROLS$$_$$_TWINCONTROL_$$_CREATEWND': controls.o(.text+0x13cc): undefined reference to `L680' controls.o(.text+0x13d9): undefined reference to `L680' controls.o(.text+0x13de): undefined reference to `L681' Warning: Error while linking
Don't know what this is.

HandleNeeded:
With the intrduction of HandleNeeded , visual components shouldn't be created in the constructor anymore. This will be handled by HandleNeeded. Since references to the GTP/QT/Win component are handled through Handle, the component get created when needed. At some places I removed CreateComponent, not all.

Menus:
The menu isn't woking yet. To be exactly, its complete disabled. There were to many changes to get it compiled. I hope to fix this soon

Marc

My Netscape 4.5 displays only incomplete/messed up pages (IE 5.0 works fine).

Vincent Snijders wrote

Because the pages are a bit wide, I scroll the horizontal scrolbar a bit, so the white margin on both sides are scrolled out of screen.

The build I have used generated output with a 120% enlargement to content. I did this because some of the text is very small and if I used 100% it was virtually unreadable. Anything more than 120% and the page is too wide requireing tooooo much scrolling.

If you are using 1024x768 or better it doesn't require much if any scrolling. Since most of the developers here are what I would consider power users I assume they are already using screen rez of that size.

I'm afraid not. This window is simply an HTML frame which is being loaded with a new HTML page. When a browser loads a new page it resets things such as scroll bars because the new page might not even need scroll bars. So what happens is that the browser is just throwing away your positioning since that was the positioning for the previous page and not for the new page.

I don't even think you can trap or read scroll bar positioning in the browser with JavaScript. :-\

Florian Klaempfl wrote

My Netscape 4.5 displays only incomplete/messed up pages (IE 5.0 works fine).

Since it uses CSS and DHTML you must be sure to have Style Sheets enabled and JavaScript enabled or all you will get is messed up pages.

:-)

you wrote

Greetings, I suppose some have been wondering what I have been up to. Well I have been working with Michael C. building HTML version of the FPC Manuals.

Using latex2html works also again. The problem was the html version which must be 3.2 and not 3.0.

Peter

Netscape 4.6 With Javascript and Style Sheets Enabled, at a resolution of 1024x768.. Under Winblows. Looks Great

Netscape 4.61 With Javascript and Style Sheets Enabled, at a res of 1024x768.. Under Linux, Looks Even better (Coz I'm not using windows)

Opera 3.6, I could not get to display any of it properly. I think it has a lack of proper frame support and Javascript..

Brad..

It looks good anyway :p)

Marc Weustink wrote

Just had a quick look Netscape 4.7 seems OK

Good, thanks. I have tested it on 4.04 (Windows), 4.05 (Linux), and 4.5 (Windows). So that about rounds it up as far as Netscape goes. :-)

Michael,

Looks great and I will give you some extra feedback.

I am using IE5.

Because the pages are a bit wide, I scroll the horizontal scrolbar a bit, so the white margin on both sides are scrolled out of screen. But when I move to the next page, the scrollbar is at the left side again and I see only the left side of the page.
When view de pdf-file with acrobat 4, the scrollbar remains on the same position and once set I don't have to move it.

I don't know if this can be fixed, but it would make it easier to use with smaller screens.