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Why the FLC/Lazarus/KCL development should bespeeded

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Stefan Hille
to Cliff Baeseman: I got more than 12 years doing it in 6 different languages.. Incuding Defence Department…

Hi!

Cliff Baeseman wrote 7 lines
I got more than 12 years doing it in 6 different languages.. Incuding Defence Department R & D but in the US they love to see pieces of paper. I get paid very well at the job I am at now and always have been paid well. These Silicon Valley companies sure do like to see the paper though. Not really sure why some of the best guys I have worked with don't have a degree either.

I always thought these papers are not neccessary in USA but only in good old europe. But even here things are changing sine the need for programmers is enormous. Most adverts here sound something like

"... A degree in computer sience or long time experience....."

bye,

Stefan

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Cliff Baeseman

I got more than 12 years doing it in 6 different languages.. Incuding Defence Department R & D but in the US they love to see pieces of paper.

I get paid very well at the job I am at now and always have been paid well. These Silicon Valley companies sure do like to see the paper though. Not really sure why some of the best guys I have worked with don't have a degree either.

Cliff

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-----Original Message----- From: To: Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [lazarus] Why the FLC/Lazarus/KCL development should bespeeded > > >On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Cliff Baeseman wrote: > >> They talked with me about the job thing also... >> >> I do not have a degree :) >> >> I guess that means I can't write code. > >I don't see what the degree thing has to do with it ? After all, >if you can write code and proved that you can do something, why not ? > >I know some high-placed (read: well-paid) programmers that have NO >education at all, but who work with PC's since they were 12 or so, >and so have a lot of experience. That's why they were hired. > >Michael. > >_________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe: mail with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject > archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus >

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Shane Miller

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From: Michael Van Canneyt To: Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [lazarus] Why the FLC/Lazarus/KCL development should bespeeded > > >On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Shane Miller wrote: > >> >> >> >>> Sebastian G�nther 09/30/99 01:38PM >>> >> Shane Miller wrote: >> > >> > Borland will not use WINE. >> >> >>I hope so of course, but why are you so sure about this...? >> >> I spoke with Michael Swindel and another person at Inprise. > >Haha. Why then did I have to sign a NDA, if they chat freely about >it with you. You have some high connections there :-) ? > I'm not sure why you had to sign a NDA. I spoke with them around September 1st or 2nd I believe. They didn't say I couldn't talk about it.... >> They talked about gtk and qt and how they work and which one we >> (the lazarus project) were using. Also, they spoke about hiring >> someone that knew something about the widget set (either gtk, qt, >> or whatever) depending on which they chose. It was quite fun >> chatting with them (I don't remember the other gentlemen's name). >> I spoke with Michael via EMAIL and the other guy called me. > >You plan to work for them maybe :-) ? > They had initially called me about a job. Since the first contact, the job thing never came up again. I guess I'm not worthy. :-( >> They were familiar with the Lazarus project, along with the >> Medigio project (whatever it was called). > >I told them that died a long time ago. > Me too.. >> >> They plan on doing something very similiar to what we are doing. >> It seems like they have the same ideas and hopes that we have >> about the Linux environment and what it could become. > >True, but I find this contrasts with their plans to work with corel. >(but that is my highly personal opinion, based just on what I see >on the net) > >But your information is partially correct. They plan indeed to use >GTK or Qt for the VCL. (Which one wasn't sure when I spoke to them) >If they use GTK they could use our headers, so I was told :-) > >AFAIK they are in contact with the Qt team; because it seems that >if they want Qt then Qt would need to include RTTI in their objects. >(or something of the sort, I don't exactly remember) > >Michael. > Did they actually FAX an NDA to you and make you sign it? Must have had a more involved conversation with them then. They seemed to enjoy chatting about the new Linux/Delphi project and I found it to be quite fun myself... ------------------------------------------------------------ Shane Miller Get paid to surf the net! http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=DEX-870 Home page : http://www.lakefield.net/~smiller Auto-IP Publisher : http://www.lakefield.net/~smiller/autoip Advanced Clipboard : http://www.lakefield.net/~smiller/advclipboard Lazarus : http://www.miraclec.com/lazarus ----------------------------------------------------------

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Cliff Baeseman

They talked with me about the job thing also...

I do not have a degree :)

I guess that means I can't write code.

This means only one thing to me, "MAKE IT HURT"

Cliff

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-----Original Message----- From: Shane Miller To: Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [lazarus] Why the FLC/Lazarus/KCL development should bespeeded >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Van Canneyt >To: >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:55 AM >Subject: Re: [lazarus] Why the FLC/Lazarus/KCL development should bespeeded > > >> >> >>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Shane Miller wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sebastian G�nther 09/30/99 01:38PM >>> >>> Shane Miller wrote: >>> > >>> > Borland will not use WINE. >>> >>> >>I hope so of course, but why are you so sure about this...? >>> >>> I spoke with Michael Swindel and another person at Inprise. >> >>Haha. Why then did I have to sign a NDA, if they chat freely about >>it with you. You have some high connections there :-) ? >> > >I'm not sure why you had to sign a NDA. I spoke with them around September >1st or 2nd I believe. They didn't say I couldn't talk about it.... > >>> They talked about gtk and qt and how they work and which one we >>> (the lazarus project) were using. Also, they spoke about hiring >>> someone that knew something about the widget set (either gtk, qt, >>> or whatever) depending on which they chose. It was quite fun >>> chatting with them (I don't remember the other gentlemen's name). >>> I spoke with Michael via EMAIL and the other guy called me. >> >>You plan to work for them maybe :-) ? >> > >They had initially called me about a job. Since the first contact, the job >thing never came up again. I guess I'm not worthy. :-( > >>> They were familiar with the Lazarus project, along with the >>> Medigio project (whatever it was called). >> >>I told them that died a long time ago. >> > >Me too.. > >>> >>> They plan on doing something very similiar to what we are doing. >>> It seems like they have the same ideas and hopes that we have >>> about the Linux environment and what it could become. >> >>True, but I find this contrasts with their plans to work with corel. >>(but that is my highly personal opinion, based just on what I see >>on the net) >> >>But your information is partially correct. They plan indeed to use >>GTK or Qt for the VCL. (Which one wasn't sure when I spoke to them) >>If they use GTK they could use our headers, so I was told :-) >> >>AFAIK they are in contact with the Qt team; because it seems that >>if they want Qt then Qt would need to include RTTI in their objects. >>(or something of the sort, I don't exactly remember) >> >>Michael. >> > >Did they actually FAX an NDA to you and make you sign it? Must have had a >more involved conversation with them then. They seemed to enjoy chatting >about the new Linux/Delphi project and I found it to be quite fun myself... > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Shane Miller > >Get paid to surf the net! >http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=DEX-870 > >Home page : http://www.lakefield.net/~smiller > >Auto-IP Publisher : http://www.lakefield.net/~smiller/autoip > >Advanced Clipboard : http://www.lakefield.net/~smiller/advclipboard > >Lazarus : http://www.miraclec.com/lazarus >---------------------------------------------------------- > > >_________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe: mail with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject > archives at http://www.miraclec.com/list_archives/lazarus >

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Cliff Baeseman wrote 5 lines
They talked with me about the job thing also... I do not have a degree :) I guess that means I can't write code.

I don't see what the degree thing has to do with it ? After all, if you can write code and proved that you can do something, why not ?

I know some high-placed (read: well-paid) programmers that have NO education at all, but who work with PC's since they were 12 or so, and so have a lot of experience. That's why they were hired.

Michael.

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