I hope to have FPC soon in the debian distribution. And let's see if corel will take FPC, because corel is based on debian.

Peter

Yes, but even if they can do it, they will just run on a Corel-adapted version of linux - if I understand it right. I very much doubt that everyone wishes to buy this version; if it is more Windows-like, what is the purpose of having linux at all? If you want to implement a more windows like environment, why not just take windows ? and furthermore, If you do that you WILL introduce all of the windows bugs and quircks and even add some more.

They can only do what they promise by taking wine and it's lib to provide the win32 API, and linking it in in every app. I doubt anyone will like that. What kind of application are you writing if you need 6 Meg of libs to run it ? This isn't VB you know !

Maybe I'm being too religious about it, but I definitely don't like the way it sounds.

I think the marketing guys are - as usual - missing the point and screwing things up. We should send them all on a spaceship on a collision-course with the sun, ( (c) Douglas Adams ) Same goes for million-dollar CEOs - it's they that sent Borland plummeting down in the first place, though Borland seems to get out of it now (hopefully).

Michael.

http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/news/0,4538,2343151,00.html

Of course, you can discuss what a "full featured"

Quote:
"Publicly Inprise is committed to bringing Kylix to market by early next year at the latest. Whenever it's done, Kylix will represent the first full-featured, Windows-style RAD environment for Linux. While Kylix ultimately will work with all Linuxes, Inprise will work first with its partners ..."

Look at the new release time !!!!!

Probably, yes, as it makes everything easier.
Whether it makes things better is debatable.

So it is really quite possible that Borland will use Wine too, as somebody already noted here...

I know the answer to that one; but it is under the NDA.

If they do it:
1) For the IDE: You'll see it by running ldd on the executable.
2) For the VCL: I doubt anyone will use it. I don't see the use of having windows run on top of Linux; you miss the point of having Linux.

Michael.

yes I do not see them using WINE either. That would be like shooting yourself in the foot.

Cliff

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

> Look at the new release time !!!!! Yes, but even if they can do it, they will just run on a Corel-adapted version of linux - if I understand it right.

just a quick note: you know that Corel supports the Wine project...? I guess they do this because they want to use the Wine library for the Linux version of their Office Suite. So it is really quite possible that Borland will use Wine too, as somebody already noted here...

- Sebastian

Wine is not windows, it is just an api; IMHO wine is fine for the GDI support; and certainly a quick way to get it.

Sam

Peter Vreman el d�a Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:23:02 +0200 (CEST), escribi�:

I hope to have FPC soon in the debian distribution. And let's see if corel will take FPC, because corel is based on debian.

I guess not :)

Sergio

Michael Van Canneyt wrote

Probably, yes, as it makes everything easier. Whether it makes things better is debatable.

I don't know, I guess that the speed will be horribly. (especially loading speeds. Just take StarOffice with its OS abstraction layers...)

1) For the IDE: You'll see it by running ldd on the executable.

of course

2) For the VCL: I doubt anyone will use it. I don't see the use of having windows run on top of Linux; you miss the point of having Linux.

Yes and no, it could work as a temporary solution until the native libraries are ready.
We will see; on the other hand I don't think this would influence any FreePascal related project (Lazarus and KCL) at all...

- Sebastian

Yes, and for this reason the win32 abstraction layer (wine) slows things down... Add to that the VCL layer and hop; one mouseclick must go through 2 extra layers.

Then you should better wait till you have the native version. try and do things right from the first time, is my experience...

We will see; on the other hand I don't think this would influence any FreePascal related project (Lazarus and KCL) at all...

That is true, we shouldn't look at what they do, just try and get it working.

Michael.

How many times do you click a mouse in a second? I really don't think this can be what slows it down.

Sam