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ideU version 1.0.0.

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fredvs

Hello.

I am happy to present ideU version 1.0.0.

ideU is a ide based on MSEide.

Multi languages, multi compilers (but fpc is the favorite ;-) ).

ideU is totally voice-assisted and integrate MSE and fpGUI designers.

=> https://github.com/fredvs/ideU

There are compiled binaries for Windows, Linux and FreeBSD here:

=> https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases

Have fun.

Fre;D

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Paul Breneman
to Martin Schreiber: Maybe you should list the original too? ;-) Martin
Martin Schreiber wrote 16 lines
On Thursday 24 December 2015 15:24:29 Paul Breneman wrote: > Thanks for a simple IDE that a beginner can install. I've already > posted a few links on my pages. > > At the bottom of this page: > http://www.controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm > it now leads here: > http://turbocontrol.com/devoptions.htm > which has a link to ideU at the bottom. > > The bottom of two pages doesn't sound very good but hopefully this will > improve. Thanks again! :) > Maybe you should list the original too? ;-) Martin

Yes I should, but the original is not as simple for a beginner to install. But thanks for the *original* as I appreciate all of these options. :)

I should also make a correction: The new IDE is powerful but simple to install!

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Martin Schreiber
to Paul Breneman: Thanks for a simple IDE that a beginner can install. I've already posted a few links on…
Paul Breneman wrote 12 lines
Thanks for a simple IDE that a beginner can install. I've already posted a few links on my pages. At the bottom of this page: http://www.controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm it now leads here: http://turbocontrol.com/devoptions.htm which has a link to ideU at the bottom. The bottom of two pages doesn't sound very good but hopefully this will improve. Thanks again! :)

Maybe you should list the original too? ;-)

Martin

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Martin Schreiber
to Paul Breneman: Yes I should, but the original is not as simple for a beginner to install. But thanks…
Paul Breneman wrote 8 lines
On 12/24/2015 11:06 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > Maybe you should list the original too? ;-) > > Martin Yes I should, but the original is not as simple for a beginner to install.

???
Frome MSEide README.TXT:
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1. Download and install FPC 3.0.0, you can get it from http://www.freepascal.org/download.var
2. Download mseide_msegui_src_4_0.zip and the mseide_* archive for your system.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/mseide-msegui/4.0/
3. Extract them to a directory of your choice ('yourdirectory') .
4. Run 'yourdirectory/bin/mseide' on linux and freebsed or 'yourdirectory\bin\mseide.exe' on windows.
5. In 'Settings'-'Configure MSEide'-'${MSEDIR}' select 'yourdirectory/msegui'.
6. In 'Project'-'Open' select 'yourdirectory/msegui/apps/demo/demo.prj'.
7. 'Target'-'Continue'.
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where 6. and 7. already are steps to compile and run the demo application. Is this really too difficult for people who like to develop software? ;-)

Martin

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fredvs
to che fou

Hello.

Strange that you threat ideU like a rival.

ideU is the first voice-assisted ide (for blind people), but is simple to use for everybody too.

ideU is more universal, MSE is MSE-centred.

If you do not like fork from other, why did you do MSE open-source ?

And why complain so late, after all the contacts that we had ?

Fre;D

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Martin Schreiber
to fredvs
fredvs wrote
And why complain so late, after all the contacts that we had ?

Ouh, you are sensitive. ;-)
Nobody complains!
Its only if I read that MSEide is difficult to install or something similar I like to knew why because I always try to make things as easy as possible. But we should not talk about MSEide here.

Martin

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Paul Breneman
to Martin Schreiber: ??? Frome MSEide README.TXT: " 1. Download and install FPC 3.0.0, you can get it from…
Martin Schreiber wrote 27 lines
On Thursday 24 December 2015 16:58:16 Paul Breneman wrote: > On 12/24/2015 11:06 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote: >> >> Maybe you should list the original too? ;-) >> >> Martin > > Yes I should, but the original is not as simple for a beginner to > install. ??? Frome MSEide README.TXT: " 1. Download and install FPC 3.0.0, you can get it from http://www.freepascal.org/download.var 2. Download mseide_msegui_src_4_0.zip and the mseide_* archive for your system. http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/files/mseide-msegui/4.0/ 3. Extract them to a directory of your choice ('yourdirectory') . 4. Run 'yourdirectory/bin/mseide' on linux and freebsed or 'yourdirectory\bin\mseide.exe' on windows. 5. In 'Settings'-'Configure MSEide'-'${MSEDIR}' select 'yourdirectory/msegui'. 6. In 'Project'-'Open' select 'yourdirectory/msegui/apps/demo/demo.prj'. 7. 'Target'-'Continue'. " where 6. and 7. already are steps to compile and run the demo application. Is this really too difficult for people who like to develop software? ;-)

"Is this really too difficult for people who like to develop software?"

Of course it isn't! But that is *not* where my tutorial tries to start out. http://www.controlpascal.com/tutorial.htm

I need to think about this more and maybe put together a wiki page that summarizes how to *introduce* various people to computers, electronics (optional), programming, and Pascal programming. Maybe this is "ground zero":
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_Computers

But if you've already had a C++ programming course in college, or if you've already used an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi, then of course that changes things. Maybe you're already an embedded programmer that needs a fast starting point ('runs on my system, so let's continue) and motivating feedback:
http://wiki.freepascal.org/FPC_Embedded_Nutshell

There are lots of different people with lots of different needs, and I hope we can find ways to introduce more of them to Free Pascal. Thanks for all of your effort! :)

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Vojtěch Čihák
to fredvs: Hello. Strange that you threat ideU like a rival. ideU is the first voice-assisted ide…

Hello Fred,
just for curiosity, your mails (on fpc-pascal) sometimes appear "Fred van Stappen" and sometimes "fredvs". Why? Do you have more accounts?  
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Od: fredvs Komu: Datum: 26.12.2015 10:55 Předmět: Re: [fpc-pascal] ideU version 1.0.0.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
to Martin Schreiber: ??? Frome MSEide README.TXT: " 1. Download and install FPC 3.0.0, you can get it from…
Martin Schreiber wrote 9 lines
3. Extract them to a directory of your choice ('yourdirectory') . 4. Run 'yourdirectory/bin/mseide' on linux and freebsed or 'yourdirectory\bin\mseide.exe' on windows. 5. In 'Settings'-'Configure MSEide'-'${MSEDIR}' select 'yourdirectory/msegui'. 6. In 'Project'-'Open' select 'yourdirectory/msegui/apps/demo/demo.prj'. 7. 'Target'-'Continue'. " where 6. and 7. already are steps to compile and run the demo application. Is this really too difficult for people who like to develop software? ;-)

Looks reasonable to me, except that I'd point out that Lazarus puts up an initial form which presents its "best guess" of where it's installed, which FPC compiler binary is to be used and so on.

I fully agree that the user /should/ have the option of overriding settings. However if we're really going to be punctilious I'd suggest that he should also be told that a configuration file is about to be created, where it's being told, and how to override that choice if appropriate.

Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]

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to Vojtěch Čihák: just for curiosity, your mails (on fpc-pascal) sometimes appear "Fred van Stappen" and…
Vojtěch Čihák wrote
Hello Fred, just for curiosity, your mails (on fpc-pascal) sometimes appear "Fred van Stappen" and sometimes "fredvs". Why? Do you have more accounts?

most likely different client software... both set to use the same account but one with one "real name" and the other with a different "real name" entry...

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> Hello Fred, > just for curiosity, your mails (on fpc-pascal) sometimes appear "Fred van > Stappen" and sometimes "fredvs". Why? Do you have more accounts? most likely different client software... both set to use the same account but one with one "real name" and the other with a different "real name" entry...

Hello.
Huh, no I only have one account..
But sometimes I answer via nabble.com, othertimes via hotmail.com, maybe that is the reason of different names.

Ouh, you are sensitive. ;-)

Yep, too much, I know, sorry. ;-(

Fre;D

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fredvs wrote 11 lines
>> Hello Fred, > >> just for curiosity, your mails (on fpc-pascal) sometimes appear "Fred van >> Stappen" and sometimes "fredvs". Why? Do you have more accounts? > most likely different client software... both set to use the same account > but one with one "real name" and the other with a different "real name" > entry... Hello. Huh, no I only have one account..

yes...

But sometimes I answer via nabble.com, othertimes via hotmail.com, maybe that is the reason of different names.

that qualifies as different client software ;) ;) ;)

if it is of any real concern, you might be able to change that on one of those systems so that they both have the same user name in the From: field but i don't see any problems with it the way it is... i don't put user names in any of my email software clients ;)

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