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RE: FPIDE 1.0.6

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Pierre Free Pascal

Hi Matúš,

I never read anything about a mouse related problem concerning the Text mode IDE with Free Pascal 2.6.2.

But maybe someone on the mailing list knows
something about this hypothetical bug...

If anyone knows, please try to describe this problem as precisely as possible.

Thanks in advance,

Pierre Muller

De : Matúš Kudláč
Envoyé : samedi 20 juillet 2013 09:57
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Objet : Re: FPIDE 1.0.6

I need to use this version. I heard that there was some hanging because of mouse support. Is that true? On Jul 13, 2013 12:16 PM, "Matúš Kudláč" wrote: I am sorry I mean text-mode IDE version associated with Free Pascal 1.0.6.

On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Matúš Kudláč wrote: Hi,

I want to use Free Pascal IDE 1.0.6 in windows XP Professional 32bit. I know to ask some questions about that. Are there some stability problems with that version? If there are can I make some changes to make it stable(for example to edit the properties of the shortcut).

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Pierre Free Pascal

The version of the IDE is different from the compiler version.

Could you please tell us the compiler version?
It can be found in "Help|About" menu entry.

Even compiler version 2.4.0 already has IDE version 1.0.12... Thus I suspect that 1.0.6 corresponds to a really old compiler. It will be difficult to get feedback on outdate releases...

Why can't you use a more recent compiler?

Pierre Muller

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-----Message d'origine----- De : Matúš Kudláč Envoyé : mardi 23 juillet 2013 09:26 À : Pierre Free Pascal Objet : Re: FPIDE 1.0.6 OK, but I wrote about Free pascal 1.0.6(I need to use that version). On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Pierre Free Pascal wrote: > Hi Matúš, > > I never read anything about a mouse related problem > concerning the Text mode IDE with Free Pascal 2.6.2. > > But maybe someone on the mailing list knows > something about this hypothetical bug... > > If anyone knows, please try to describe this problem > as precisely as possible. > > Thanks in advance, > > > Pierre Muller > > > De : Matúš Kudláč > Envoyé : samedi 20 juillet 2013 09:57 > À : > Objet : Re: FPIDE 1.0.6 > > I need to use this version. I heard that there was some hanging because of mouse support. Is that true? > On Jul 13, 2013 12:16 PM, "Matúš Kudláč" wrote: > I am sorry I mean text-mode IDE version associated with Free Pascal 1.0.6. > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Matúš Kudláč wrote: > Hi, > > > I want to use Free Pascal IDE 1.0.6 in windows XP Professional 32bit. I know to ask some questions about that. Are there some stability problems with that version? If there are can I make some changes to make it stable(for example to edit the properties of the shortcut). > >

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
to Pierre Free Pascal
Pierre Free Pascal wrote 8 lines
The version of the IDE is different from the compiler version. Could you please tell us the compiler version? It can be found in "Help|About" menu entry. Even compiler version 2.4.0 already has IDE version 1.0.12... Thus I suspect that 1.0.6 corresponds to a really old compiler. It will be difficult to get feedback on outdate releases...

/If/ that's the case, then he's got FPC 2.0.2.

Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]

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Matúš Kudláč
to Mark Morgan Lloyd

No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd <

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wrote: Pierre Free Pascal wrote: > The version of the IDE is different from the compiler version. > > Could you please tell us the compiler version? > It can be found in "Help|About" menu entry. > > Even compiler version 2.4.0 already has IDE version 1.0.12... > Thus I suspect that 1.0.6 corresponds to a really old compiler. > It will be difficult to get feedback on outdate releases... > /If/ that's the case, then he's got FPC 2.0.2. -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] ______________________________**_________________ fpc-pascal maillist - http://lists.freepascal.org/**mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal<http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal>

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Jonas Maebe
to Matúš Kudláč
Matúš Kudláč wrote
No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?

You are asking about a version that was released 10 years ago. If you want to get useful answers, you should be much more specific than "are there some stability problems with that version". The text mode IDE was probably extremely unstable, but other than that it's hard to quantify things. It was the last version in the 1.0.x series, so presumably it was reasonably ok. The only way to find out is to try use it (if you still can find a download; we cannot distribute it anymore because it was discovered that it contained code that may have been copied from Borland sources).

Jonas

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Tomas Hajny
to Matúš Kudláč: No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that more stable?…
Matúš Kudláč wrote
No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version?

As already indicated previously, the most relevant information for you is obtained by simply testing it on your own use cases and in your own environment. Nevertheless, you can obviously also have a look at bugs reported for that particular version and categories relevant for you in our bugs repository.

As an example, filtering for product version 1.0.10 and category text-mode IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug reporter, but it gives you some

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Sven Barth
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Tomas Hajny wrote 15 lines
On Wed, July 31, 2013 12:05, Matúš Kudláč wrote: > No, I have got FPC 1.0.6. Maybe I will be able to use FPC 1.0.10. Is that > more stable? Are there some stability problems with that version? As already indicated previously, the most relevant information for you is obtained by simply testing it on your own use cases and in your own environment. Nevertheless, you can obviously also have a look at bugs reported for that particular version and categories relevant for you in our bugs repository. As an example, filtering for product version 1.0.10 and category text-mode IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug reporter, but it gives you some some bugs might not have been reported because of a smaller user

base and thus smaller test coverage...

Regards,
Sven

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Marco van de Voort
to Sven Barth

In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:

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> IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there > are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this > way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug > reporter, but it gives you some indication at least. Also some bugs might not have been reported because of a smaller user base and thus smaller test coverage...

And, a release that was the "latest" release for a much longer period of course has a higher chance of bugs begin detected.

And IIRC 1.0.10 was one of the longest running releases.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
to Marco van de Voort
Marco van de Voort wrote 12 lines
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said: >> IDE shows 44 bug records. Not all of these are real bugs, because there >> are also feature requests, etc., and not all bugs might be selected this >> way due to incomplete or incorrect input provided by the original bug >> reporter, but it gives you some indication at least. > Also some bugs might not have been reported because of a smaller user > base and thus smaller test coverage... And, a release that was the "latest" release for a much longer period of course has a higher chance of bugs begin detected. And IIRC 1.0.10 was one of the longest running releases.

I'm still bothered, particularly now that the subject line is "FPIDE 1.0.6". I think that it would be interesting to know *exactly* what the OP is doing to get that version number, and *exactly* how that version number is reported.

In particular, is he looking at something comparable with this:

FreePascal IDE for Linux for i386
Target CPU: i386
Version 1.0.12 2012/11/14

Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]

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