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what happened to the "contributed units" listing?

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Michael Van Canneyt
to José Mejuto
José Mejuto wrote 10 lines
El 07/02/2013 2:27, Michalis Kamburelis escribió: > It's on http://www.freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html now. But some > pages may still contain old links, see > http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23769 . Hello, Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) need javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was empty :(

I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser...

These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript enabled in the browser.

Michael.

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José Mejuto
to Michael Van Canneyt
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 14 lines
>> It's on http://www.freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html now. But some >> pages may still contain old links, see >> http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23769 . > > Hello, > > Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) > need javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was > empty :( I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser... These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript enabled in the browser.

Hello,

Yes, and 80% of intrusive ads also do not work, javascript code injection also does not work, pop-up, pop-under, autoredirects, and many many nasty things do not work also.

My Javascript is selectivelly disabled, some trusted sites have javascript enabled (as freepascal.com) but as the sript is located in other server (cachefly.net) it was by default blocked.

A simple <noscript>Javascript disabled!</noscript> should be enought to note that Javascript is needed.

Just a side note, I think that the links in the list should open in a new browser tab by default, do not ?

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Michael Van Canneyt
to José Mejuto
José Mejuto wrote 29 lines
El 07/02/2013 13:50, Michael Van Canneyt escribió: >>> It's on http://www.freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html now. But some >>> pages may still contain old links, see >>> http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23769 . >> >> Hello, >> >> Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) >> need javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was >> empty :( > I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their > browser... > These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript > enabled in the browser. > Hello, Yes, and 80% of intrusive ads also do not work, javascript code injection also does not work, pop-up, pop-under, autoredirects, and many many nasty things do not work also. My Javascript is selectivelly disabled, some trusted sites have javascript enabled (as freepascal.com) but as the sript is located in other server (cachefly.net) it was by default blocked. A simple <noscript>Javascript disabled!</noscript> should be enought to note that Javascript is needed.

Will do.

Just a side note, I think that the links in the list should open in a new browser tab by default, do not ?

Good suggestion, will do too.

Michael.

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Mark Morgan Lloyd
to José Mejuto: Yes, and 80% of intrusive ads also do not work, javascript code injection also does not…
José Mejuto wrote 26 lines
El 07/02/2013 13:50, Michael Van Canneyt escribió: >>> It's on http://www.freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html now. But some >>> pages may still contain old links, see >>> http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23769 . >> >> Hello, >> >> Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) >> need javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was >> empty :( > I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their > browser... > These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript > enabled in the browser. > Hello, Yes, and 80% of intrusive ads also do not work, javascript code injection also does not work, pop-up, pop-under, autoredirects, and many many nasty things do not work also. My Javascript is selectivelly disabled, some trusted sites have javascript enabled (as freepascal.com) but as the sript is located in other server (cachefly.net) it was by default blocked.

Agreed.

Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues]

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Frank Church
to Michael Van Canneyt: I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser... These…
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 28 lines
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, José Mejuto wrote: > El 07/02/2013 2:27, Michalis Kamburelis escribió: > >> It's on http://www.freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html now. But some >> pages may still contain old links, see >> http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23769 . > > > Hello, > > Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) > need javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was empty > :( I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser... These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript enabled in the browser. Michael. _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

I disable Javascript on all websites and selectively enable them, and even them for the majority of the sites it is temporary.

Frank Church ======================= http://devblog.brahmancreations.com

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Frank Church
to leledumbo: Bye2 PHP based list, welcome fpweb + ExtJS based list :) View this message in context:…
leledumbo wrote 5 lines
Bye2 PHP based list, welcome fpweb + ExtJS based list :) --

Do we get the chance to view the code used for FPC/Lazarus infrastructure and learn from it and be able to update it?

I don't think web development coding in FPC/Lazarus will take off if code samples are not freely available, especially if there are no commercial confidentiality issues involved.

Frank Church ======================= http://devblog.brahmancreations.com

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Michael Van Canneyt: Will do. Good suggestion, will do too. Michael.
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 5 lines
> > A simple <noscript>Javascript disabled!</noscript> should be enought to note > that Javascript is needed. Will do.

There also seems to be a bug in sorting. Sort the first column (Name) in ascending order, then the list appears as...

RvRsaLib
punk commander
AES...
ASP...
Account
Advanced...
...

1) The first two items don't start with 'A', yet appear at the top of the list
2) It seems upper case letters take preference (AS... before Ac...)

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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Jürgen Hestermann
to José Mejuto: Yes, and 80% of intrusive ads also do not work, javascript code injection also does not…
José Mejuto wrote
My Javascript is selectivelly disabled, some trusted sites have javascript enabled (as freepascal.com) but as the sript is located in other server (cachefly.net) it was by default blocked.

Yes, I have switched it off too (there are only a very few exceptions). Even freepascal.org works fine for me without javascript.

Today active scripting on web pages is the most popular way to infect computers. By switching it off I remove a root cause of infection. And all pages which do not work without it are mostly crap anyway. I don't need them.

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waldo kitty
to Michael Van Canneyt: I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser... These…
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 5 lines
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, José Mejuto wrote: > Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) need > javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was empty :( I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser...

FWIW: i don't specifically disable it but it is blocked by my protections... especially if it comes from a different domain than the page it on...

These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript enabled in the browser.

good thing that no one visits that half of the internet ;) :P :mrgreen:

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Florian Klämpfl
to Michael Van Canneyt: I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser... These…
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 18 lines
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, José Mejuto wrote: > El 07/02/2013 2:27, Michalis Kamburelis escribió: > >> It's on http://www.freepascal.org/contrib/contribs.html now. But some >> pages may still contain old links, see >> http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23769 . > > Hello, > > Please, add some kind of notification that the page (and maybe others) > need javascript enabled to be displayed. I thought that the page was > empty :( I didn't imagine there are still people who disable javascript in their browser...

I've it also disabled by default.

These days, about the half of internet does not work without Javascript enabled in the browser.

The important 0.0001% works ;)

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Frank Church: Do we get the chance to view the code used for FPC/Lazarus infrastructure and learn from…
Frank Church wrote 13 lines
On 7 February 2013 12:35, leledumbo wrote: > Bye2 PHP based list, welcome fpweb + ExtJS based list :) > > > > -- Do we get the chance to view the code used for FPC/Lazarus infrastructure and learn from it and be able to update it? I don't think web development coding in FPC/Lazarus will take off if code samples are not freely available, especially if there are no commercial confidentiality issues involved.

All FPC code is in the SVN repository.

Michael.

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Frank Church
to Michael Van Canneyt
Michael Van Canneyt wrote 23 lines
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Frank Church wrote: > On 7 February 2013 12:35, leledumbo wrote: >> >> Bye2 PHP based list, welcome fpweb + ExtJS based list :) >> >> >> >> -- > > > Do we get the chance to view the code used for FPC/Lazarus > infrastructure and learn from it and be able to update it? > > I don't think web development coding in FPC/Lazarus will take off if > code samples are not freely available, especially if there are no > commercial confidentiality issues involved. All FPC code is in the SVN repository.

Are you referring to the code of all FPC/Lazarus web infrastructure coded in FPC or the general FPC web examples?

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Michael. _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Frank Church
Frank Church wrote
Are you referring to the code of all FPC/Lazarus web infrastructure coded in FPC or the general FPC web examples?

As far as I know the "Free Pascal" project has a few SubVersion repositories. eg: The main one for the compiler/rtl/fcl, another repository for the Documentation. I also believe there are at least two other repositories... one for the FPC release tools, and probably another for Various tools (eg: like the website CGI apps, IRC bot etc). I'm sure the freepascal.org -> Development link will give you more information about all the SubVersion repositories.

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- Graeme -

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Michael Van Canneyt
to Frank Church: Are you referring to the code of all FPC/Lazarus web infrastructure coded in FPC or the…
Frank Church wrote 27 lines
On 7 February 2013 21:23, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Frank Church wrote: > >> On 7 February 2013 12:35, leledumbo wrote: >>> >>> Bye2 PHP based list, welcome fpweb + ExtJS based list :) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> >> >> Do we get the chance to view the code used for FPC/Lazarus >> infrastructure and learn from it and be able to update it? >> >> I don't think web development coding in FPC/Lazarus will take off if >> code samples are not freely available, especially if there are no >> commercial confidentiality issues involved. > > > All FPC code is in the SVN repository. > Are you referring to the code of all FPC/Lazarus web infrastructure coded in FPC or the general FPC web examples?

All available code is in subversion.
Examples, tools used by the FPC team. Also the website.

for example
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/html
contains the website material, including the contrib site, which is in http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/html/contrib

Michael.

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Michael Van Canneyt
Michael Van Canneyt wrote
for example http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/html contains the website material, including the contrib site, which is in

Why can't one browser that repository with ViewCVS like all the other repositories mentioned in the Development web page?

http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/?root=html

The direct link obviously works, but not via viewcvs. Not urgent, just curious.

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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Sven Barth
to Graeme Geldenhuys
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote 15 lines
On 2013-02-09 09:29, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > for example > http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/html > contains the website material, including the contrib site, which is in Why can't one browser that repository with ViewCVS like all the other repositories mentioned in the Development web page? http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/?root=html The direct link obviously works, but not via viewcvs. Not urgent, just curious.

If you click at the "/" node in front of the repository (e.g. "[fpc]") you see a list of all available repositories. The old version of viewcvs had a combobox to select the repository, but that feature seems to have been removed... (I had asked regarding this a few days back)

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Sven

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Graeme Geldenhuys
to Sven Barth
Sven Barth wrote 9 lines
> > http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/?root=html > > > The direct link obviously works, but not via viewcvs. Not urgent, just > curious. If you click at the "/" node in front of the repository (e.g. "[fpc]") you see a list of all available repositories.

Ah, never noticed that "/" node. And the reason the previous link didn't work, is because the "html" repository (as mentioned on website) is registered as "fpchtml" in viewvc.

http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/?root=fpchtml

A slight name change.

Regards,
- Graeme -

fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/

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