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Hi,

Sorry about this spam message. This person simply subscribed to the list and then sent the message. I've now changed the list options so that new members are moderated by default. This may result in some new members' first real posts to be accidentally discarded along with the spam that's held for moderator approval, but I don't know of another way to defend against this sort of abuse.

Jonas
FPC mailing lists admin

If too much gets moderated, we could install spam assassin on scenergy and moderate only messages above a certain treshhold.

Sorry about this spam message. This person simply subscribed to the list and then sent the message. I've now changed the list options so that new members are moderated by default. This may result in some new members' first real posts to be accidentally discarded along with the spam that's held for moderator approval, but I don't know of another way to defend against this sort of abuse.

Please don't overmoderate everything! It is so simple for me to delete some spam messages. They cannot be avoided anyway. Filtering spam does not work perfectly. Trying to find every spam (well, what's spam at all?) will also delete some interesting (and sometimes even important) message too.

I agree that it is too early to moderate join requests on account of this one message . This is the first spam I can remember seeing on this mailing list in a long while.

Give it some more time and moderate it if the amount of spam increases to an annoying level.

Frank Church wrote

I agree that it is too early to moderate join requests on account of this one message .

I won't moderate join requests (there is no way to know whether a new subscriber will be a spammer or not). It's just that their messages will default to being moderated, and I will generally clear that moderation flag the first time they send a mail if it's not spam.

This is the first spam I can remember seeing on this mailing list in a long while.

That's because of preventative measures (such as holding all mails from non-subscribers for moderator approval -- this also results in lost messages, because sometimes people mail from a different address or are simply not subscribed). It's not because we ignore what spammers do.

Give it some more time and moderate it if the amount of spam increases to an annoying level.

I don't want to wait until that point. And I can also disable this measure again if no new spammers try to join in the upcoming months. It's not like we get 10 new subscribers a day or so (more like 5 to 10 per month, and many of those don't post).

Jonas

Florian Klaempfl wrote

If too much gets moderated, we could install spam assassin on scenergy and moderate only messages above a certain treshhold.

Is there no spamassassin on scenergy yet? I wouldn't mind at all if were added.

Jonas

In WordPress you need only moderate the new posts for the users, users have over 5 posts (5 for example), WordPress will automatically accpet the post without moderate from that user.

Best Regards
Zaher Dirkey

ummm... speaking as one who has fought the spammers and won their mailbox back from them, this is much bovine fecal material... i have fought "them" from +1000/day spams back to less than ~5/day... it is very possible but one nes to stay vigilant and report the spams to those who can actually do something about it...

Filtering spam does not work perfectly. Trying to find every spam (well, what's spam at all?) will also delete some interesting (and sometimes even important) message too.

this is the main reason why one /must/ visit their spambox and unspam those legitimate messages that may be in there... this is not something to be taken lightly... sadly, until the spammers and advertisers are eliminated from the 'net (which will never happen :(, one must understand and verify much of that which they "see" coming in from the 'net...

speaking as a security researcher, this is also an ongoing job that everyone really should also learn, understand and deal with properly ;)

ummm... speaking as one who has fought the spammers and won their

mailbox back from them, this is much bovine fecal material... i have fought "them" from +1000/day spams back to less than ~5/day... it is very possible but one nes to stay vigilant and report the spams to those who can actually do something about it...

Well, with +1000/day I would have closed down the mail address and used a different one.
And as I said: You still have "some" spam mails (as I also have, but without any antispam action)
so you did not get them all. ;-)

this is the main reason why one /must/ visit their spambox and unspam

those legitimate messages that may be in there... this is not something to be taken lightly... sadly, until the spammers and advertisers are eliminated from the 'net (which will never happen :(, one must understand and verify much of that which they "see" coming in from the 'net...

speaking as a security researcher, this is also an ongoing job that

everyone really should also learn, understand and deal with properly ;)

But of what use is it to split appart some mails from the stream only to inspect them all anyway (even in different folders now)? I would not want to do this.

Anyway. The only reason I wrote an answer to this spam topic was that I wanted to suggest not to invest too much work in fighting against spam. Only if the number of spam becomes *realy* hard to delete further action is required IMO. And because of the very low numbers of spam I currently get from the free pascal mailing list I don't think that an intensification of antispam is necessary yet.