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Basic instructions for quick start of free basic setup with subversion.

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Peter Eric Williams

Hi pascal list,

Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list.

I require the basic instructions for quick start with subversion for all of the free pascal compiler using subversion.

I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I am new to Free Pascal and Lazarus.

I have previously used Linux Ubuntu and Mint 10 with stable version of free Pascal and Lazarus.

I am not wanting to use a pirate copy of Delphi XE and I am a supporter of free pascal and the GNU GPL 3 license.

I have been reading the Development Tutorial (a.k.a Build FAQ)

Copy and paste follows from the Dev. Tut. pdf file, section 1.3.3 (with my comments //). Please note the crap characters when I copy and pasted it.

1.3.3 Downloading source via SVN
„To c™he™k out a— module use the follow line:
svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/<module>/trunk <module> #
# Examples:
#
# FPC
# svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc #
# fpcdocs
#
svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcdocs/trunk fpcdocs #
# fpcprojects (has no branches, maybe you don't need /trunk at the end) #
svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcprojects/trunk fpcprojects #
# lazarus
#
svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus „
o ™he™k out — ˜r—n™hD repl—™e trunk in the —˜ove lines with the ˜r—n™hesG`˜r—n™h n—mebF iFgF to ™he™k out the ˜r—n™h (xes•P•RX

// to check out a branch replace trunk in the above lines with
branches/<branch name> E.g. To checkout the branches_2.4

5
\href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip 6
\href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip development series)}
(2.2.x)}
(2.5.x
CHAPTER 1.
BASE PRINCIPLES, NAMING, VERSIONS, REQUIREMENTS ETC IQ
svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/branches/fixes_2_4 fpc-2.4.x ƒpe™i(™ rele—ses —re t—gged with — t—g th—t is form—ted like ‚ivieƒi•P•R•H D —nd ™—n ˜e ™he™ked out like thisX svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/tags/RELEASE_2_4_0 fpc-2.4.0

Best Regards,
pew

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Andrew Haines
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Peter Eric Williams wrote 9 lines
Hi pascal list, Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list. I require the basic instructions for quick start with subversion for all of the free pascal compiler using subversion. I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I am new to Free Pascal and Lazarus.

you have the command right there

"svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc" "svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus"

This will create a folder named "fpc" and "lazarus" in the working directory of the cmd.exe prompt you have open.

If you are setting fpc up for the first time on this computer, you'll need a starting compiler to compile the source you've just gotten. Download the correct one from here:
ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/fpc/dist/2.4.2/bootstrap/

If you choose i386-win32-ppc386.zip then extracting that will give you something like ppc386.exe

cd into the fpc folder and type "PP=/path/to/ppc386.exe make all install" generally that will install fpc into c:\fpc. It's important to use gnu make since others like the MS one or borlands are not compatible with the makefiles fpc uses.

Anyway it's much easier to just install a snapshot from here: http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/

Choose the "Lazarus + fpc 2.4.2" "win32" link. This should install a fpc 2.4.2 compiler and the latest svn version of lazarus.

Also this link has a lot of relevant information:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_Lazarus

Regards,

Andrew

An overview of requirements:

1 and 2 must be in the PATH. unless you use variables to set them (MAKE=c:\path\to\make.exe AS=c:\path\to\as.exe etc.)

1. Gnu Make
2. Possibly win32 binutils (as.exe ld.exe and some more)
3. Latest Release of FPC for the starting compiler (currently 2.4.2)
4. Fpc Source code, either from a zip file or gotten from subversion (svn) (compile with a starting compiler from step 3)
5. Lazarus source code (compile with fpc created in step 4)

Further notes:

gnu make gets cranky in windows if you use a path with spaces in it. That is why fpc and lazarus are generally installed to c:\fpc or c:\lazarus instead of c:\program files\...

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Marcos Douglas
to Peter Eric Williams: Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list. I require the…
Peter Eric Williams wrote 63 lines
Hi pascal list, Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list. I require the basic instructions for quick start with subversion for all of the free pascal compiler using subversion. I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I am new to Free Pascal and Lazarus. I have previously used Linux Ubuntu and Mint 10 with stable version of free Pascal and Lazarus. I am not wanting to use a pirate copy of Delphi XE and I am a supporter of free pascal and the GNU GPL 3 license. I have been reading the Development Tutorial (a.k.a Build FAQ) Copy and paste follows from the Dev. Tut. pdf file, section 1.3.3 (with my comments //). Please note the crap characters when I copy and pasted it. 1.3.3 Downloading source via SVN „To c™he™k out a— module use the follow line: svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/<module>/trunk <module> # # Examples: # # FPC # svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc # # fpcdocs # svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcdocs/trunk fpcdocs # # fpcprojects (has no branches, maybe you don't need /trunk at the end) # svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcprojects/trunk fpcprojects # # lazarus # svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus „ o ™he™k out — ˜r—n™hD repl—™e  trunk  in the —˜ove lines with the ˜r—n™hesG`˜r—n™h n—mebF iFgF to ™he™k out the ˜r—n™h (xes•P•RX // to check out a branch replace trunk in the above lines with branches/<branch name> E.g. To checkout the branches_2.4 5 \href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip 6 \href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip development series)} (2.2.x)} (2.5.x CHAPTER 1. BASE PRINCIPLES, NAMING, VERSIONS, REQUIREMENTS ETC IQ svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/branches/fixes_2_4 fpc-2.4.x ƒpe™i(™ rele—ses —re t—gged with — t—g th—t is form—ted like ‚ivieƒi•P•R•H D —nd ™—n ˜e ™he™ked out like thisX svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/tags/RELEASE_2_4_0 fpc-2.4.0

I had some problems when I tried install FPC and Lazarus on WinXP. So, after I made this tutorial:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Compiling.2Finstalling_FPC_and_Lazarus_from_Sources_of_SVN_.28Win32.29

...any installation on Windows I always use it.

Marcos Douglas

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Peter E Williams
to Andrew Haines: you have the command right there "svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc"…

Hi Andrew,

No offence intended but I will follow the advice of the latter poster (Marcos).

:-)

pew

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
--- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
--- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675
My free websites are: http://pewink.info (&)
http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

Andrew Haines wrote 66 lines
On 01/22/11 14:31, Peter Eric Williams wrote: > Hi pascal list, > > Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list. > > I require the basic instructions for quick start with subversion for all > of the free pascal compiler using subversion. > > I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I am new to Free Pascal and Lazarus. > you have the command right there "svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc" "svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus" This will create a folder named "fpc" and "lazarus" in the working directory of the cmd.exe prompt you have open. If you are setting fpc up for the first time on this computer, you'll need a starting compiler to compile the source you've just gotten. Download the correct one from here: ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/fpc/dist/2.4.2/bootstrap/ If you choose i386-win32-ppc386.zip then extracting that will give you something like ppc386.exe cd into the fpc folder and type "PP=/path/to/ppc386.exe make all install" generally that will install fpc into c:\fpc. It's important to use gnu make since others like the MS one or borlands are not compatible with the makefiles fpc uses. Anyway it's much easier to just install a snapshot from here: http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ Choose the "Lazarus + fpc 2.4.2" "win32" link. This should install a fpc 2.4.2 compiler and the latest svn version of lazarus. Also this link has a lot of relevant information: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Getting_Lazarus Regards, Andrew An overview of requirements: 1 and 2 must be in the PATH. unless you use variables to set them (MAKE=c:\path\to\make.exe AS=c:\path\to\as.exe etc.) 1. Gnu Make 2. Possibly win32 binutils (as.exe ld.exe and some more) 3. Latest Release of FPC for the starting compiler (currently 2.4.2) 4. Fpc Source code, either from a zip file or gotten from subversion (svn) (compile with a starting compiler from step 3) 5. Lazarus source code (compile with fpc created in step 4) Further notes: gnu make gets cranky in windows if you use a path with spaces in it. That is why fpc and lazarus are generally installed to c:\fpc or c:\lazarus instead of c:\program files\... _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

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Peter E Williams
to Marcos Douglas: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Peter Eric Williams I had some problems when I tried…

Hi Marcos,

Thank you. Solved pending feedback. Please allow a day or two for possible questions I have. I have printed out the relevant pages 1-22 and I will need a day or more read them.

I will be attempting Free Pascal and Lazarus installations on Windows 7 Ultimate and Mint 10 Linux. Both fairly clean installations.

pew

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
--- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
--- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675
My free websites are:  http://pewink.info   (&)    http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

Marcos Douglas wrote 77 lines
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Peter Eric Williams wrote: > Hi pascal list, > > Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list. > > I require the basic instructions for quick start with subversion for all of > the free pascal compiler using subversion. > > I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I am new to Free Pascal and Lazarus. > > I have previously used Linux Ubuntu and Mint 10 with stable version of free > Pascal and Lazarus. > > I am not wanting to use a pirate copy of Delphi XE and I am a supporter of > free pascal and the GNU GPL 3 license. > > I have been reading the Development Tutorial (a.k.a Build FAQ) > > Copy and paste follows from the Dev. Tut. pdf file, section 1.3.3 (with my > comments //). Please note the crap characters when I copy and pasted it. > > 1.3.3 Downloading source via SVN > „To c™he™k out a— module use the follow line: > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/<module>/trunk <module> > # > # Examples: > # > # FPC > # svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc > # > # fpcdocs > # > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcdocs/trunk fpcdocs > # > # fpcprojects (has no branches, maybe you don't need /trunk at the end) > # > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcprojects/trunk fpcprojects > # > # lazarus > # > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus > „ > o ™he™k out — ˜r—n™hD repl—™e  trunk  in the —˜ove lines with the > ˜r—n™hesG`˜r—n™h n—mebF iFgF to ™he™k out the ˜r—n™h > (xes•P•RX > > // to check out a branch replace trunk in the above lines with > branches/<branch name> E.g. To checkout the branches_2.4 > > > 5 > \href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip > 6 > \href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip > development series)} > (2.2.x)} > (2.5.x > CHAPTER 1. > BASE PRINCIPLES, NAMING, VERSIONS, REQUIREMENTS ETC > IQ > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/branches/fixes_2_4 fpc-2.4.x > ƒpe™i(™ rele—ses —re t—gged with — t—g th—t is form—ted like ‚ivieƒi•P•R•H D > —nd ™—n ˜e ™he™ked out like thisX > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/tags/RELEASE_2_4_0 fpc-2.4.0 I had some problems when I tried install FPC and Lazarus on WinXP. So, after I made this tutorial: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Compiling.2Finstalling_FPC_and_Lazarus_from_Sources_of_SVN_.28Win32.29 ...any installation on Windows I always use it. Marcos Douglas _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist  -   http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

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Peter E Williams
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Hi Marcos,

I am up to the point of using the file:

fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar

your instructions are for a .tar.gz file not a .tar file

your instructions read

su
password: xxxxxx
// I will amend
// cp fpc-2.2.4.source.tar.gz /usr/local/src/
cp fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar /usr/local/src/
cd /usr/local/src/

tar -xvzf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar
// does not work because it expects a .tar.gz file not a .tar file
// one of the parameters needs to be changed.
// next line amended
rm fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar

exit

That is as far as I have gotten with my lazarus installation for Mint 10 Linux.

Windows Free Pascal and Lazarus install NOT attempted so far.

I will appreciate your feedback on this. It is only a small change and I expect that Linux newbies like myself will appreciate the corrections,

pew

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
--- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
--- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675
My free websites are:  http://pewink.info   (&)    http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

Peter E Williams wrote 97 lines
Hi Marcos, Thank you. Solved pending feedback. Please allow a day or two for possible questions I have. I have printed out the relevant pages 1-22 and I will need a day or more read them. I will be attempting Free Pascal and Lazarus installations on Windows 7 Ultimate and Mint 10 Linux. Both fairly clean installations. pew Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS --- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia --- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675 My free websites are:  http://pewink.info   (&)    http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com On 22 January 2011 19:55, Marcos Douglas wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Peter Eric Williams > wrote: > > Hi pascal list, > > > > Please excuse me asking such a basic question, but I'm new to this list. > > > > I require the basic instructions for quick start with subversion for all of > > the free pascal compiler using subversion. > > > > I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I am new to Free Pascal and Lazarus. > > > > I have previously used Linux Ubuntu and Mint 10 with stable version of free > > Pascal and Lazarus. > > > > I am not wanting to use a pirate copy of Delphi XE and I am a supporter of > > free pascal and the GNU GPL 3 license. > > > > I have been reading the Development Tutorial (a.k.a Build FAQ) > > > > Copy and paste follows from the Dev. Tut. pdf file, section 1.3.3 (with my > > comments //). Please note the crap characters when I copy and pasted it. > > > > 1.3.3 Downloading source via SVN > > „To c™he™k out a— module use the follow line: > > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/<module>/trunk <module> > > # > > # Examples: > > # > > # FPC > > # svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/trunk fpc > > # > > # fpcdocs > > # > > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcdocs/trunk fpcdocs > > # > > # fpcprojects (has no branches, maybe you don't need /trunk at the end) > > # > > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpcprojects/trunk fpcprojects > > # > > # lazarus > > # > > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk lazarus > > „ > > o ™he™k out — ˜r—n™hD repl—™e  trunk  in the —˜ove lines with the > > ˜r—n™hesG`˜r—n™h n—mebF iFgF to ™he™k out the ˜r—n™h > > (xes•P•RX > > > > // to check out a branch replace trunk in the above lines with > > branches/<branch name> E.g. To checkout the branches_2.4 > > > > > > 5 > > \href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v24/source/fpc.zip > > 6 > > \href{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip}{ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/v25/source/fpc.zip > > development series)} > > (2.2.x)} > > (2.5.x > > CHAPTER 1. > > BASE PRINCIPLES, NAMING, VERSIONS, REQUIREMENTS ETC > > IQ > > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/branches/fixes_2_4 fpc-2.4.x > > ƒpe™i(™ rele—ses —re t—gged with — t—g th—t is form—ted like ‚ivieƒi•P•R•H D > > —nd ™—n ˜e ™he™ked out like thisX > > svn co http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/tags/RELEASE_2_4_0 fpc-2.4.0 > > I had some problems when I tried install FPC and Lazarus on WinXP. > So, after I made this tutorial: > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus#Compiling.2Finstalling_FPC_and_Lazarus_from_Sources_of_SVN_.28Win32.29 > > ...any installation on Windows I always use it. > > Marcos Douglas > _______________________________________________ > fpc-pascal maillist  -   > http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

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Marcos Douglas
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Peter E Williams wrote
Windows Free Pascal and Lazarus install NOT attempted so far.

You could not install on Windows, why?

I will appreciate your feedback on this. It is only a small change and I expect that Linux newbies like myself will appreciate the corrections,

I did not do the Linux installation tutorial... just the Windows part.

Marcos Douglas

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Henry Vermaak
to Peter E Williams: I am up to the point of using the file: fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar your instructions are…
Peter E Williams wrote 20 lines
Hi Marcos, I am up to the point of using the file: fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar your instructions are for a .tar.gz file not a .tar file your instructions read su password: xxxxxx // I will amend // cp fpc-2.2.4.source.tar.gz /usr/local/src/ cp fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar /usr/local/src/ cd /usr/local/src/ tar -xvzf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar // does not work because it expects a .tar.gz file not a .tar file // one of the parameters needs to be changed.

`man tar`

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Peter E Williams
to Marcos Douglas: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Peter E Williams You could not install on Windows, why?…

Hi Marcos,

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
--- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
--- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675
My free websites are:  http://pewink.info   (&)    http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

Marcos Douglas wrote 6 lines
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Peter E Williams wrote: > > Windows Free Pascal and Lazarus install NOT attempted so far. You could not install on Windows, why?

I did not say "could not install" the key words are "install NOT *attempted* so far", My system is dual boot and at the moment I am concentrating on the Linux Mint 10 installation. I will attempt the Windows 7 Ultimate in the fullness of time. Please wait for feedback.

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> I will appreciate your feedback on this. It is only a small change and > I expect that Linux newbies like myself will appreciate the > corrections, I did not do the Linux installation tutorial... just the Windows part. Marcos Douglas _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist  -   http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

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Peter E Williams
to Henry Vermaak: `man tar`

Hello Henry,

Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS
--- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
--- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675
My free websites are:  http://pewink.info   (&)    http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com

Henry Vermaak wrote 24 lines
On 24/01/11 07:17, Peter E Williams wrote: > > Hi Marcos, > > I am up to the point of using the file: > > fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar > > your instructions are for a .tar.gz file not a .tar file > > your instructions read > > su > password: xxxxxx > // I will amend > // cp fpc-2.2.4.source.tar.gz /usr/local/src/ > cp fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar /usr/local/src/ > cd /usr/local/src/ > > tar -xvzf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar > // does not work because it expects a .tar.gz file not a .tar file > // one of the parameters needs to be changed. `man tar`

Don't you see what I am doing? I am debugging the documentation. Debugging code and manuals is a skill which I have. I have schizophrenia and autism and I hate reading manuals. Please tell me the correct instruction to replace this one so that I can continue to debug the documentation.

> tar -xvzf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar

Your assistance will be appreciated and the dividends will be corrected documentation.

_______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist  -   http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

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Joël Thieffry
to Peter E Williams

Use tar without the "z" option :

tar -xvf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar

Best Regards.

Peter E Williams wrote 51 lines
Hello Henry, Fond Regards, Peter Eric WILLIAMS --- Hobart, Tasmania, Australia --- Phone: +61 (03) 6236-9675 My free websites are: http://pewink.info (&) http://pewslinuxvault.googlepages.com On 24 January 2011 05:58, Henry Vermaak wrote: > On 24/01/11 07:17, Peter E Williams wrote: >> Hi Marcos, >> >> I am up to the point of using the file: >> >> fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar >> >> your instructions are for a .tar.gz file not a .tar file >> >> your instructions read >> >> su >> password: xxxxxx >> // I will amend >> // cp fpc-2.2.4.source.tar.gz /usr/local/src/ >> cp fpc-2.4.2.i386.linux.tar /usr/local/src/ >> cd /usr/local/src/ >> >> tar -xvzf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar >> // does not work because it expects a .tar.gz file not a .tar file >> // one of the parameters needs to be changed. > `man tar` Don't you see what I am doing? I am debugging the documentation. Debugging code and manuals is a skill which I have. I have schizophrenia and autism and I hate reading manuals. Please tell me the correct instruction to replace this one so that I can continue to debug the documentation. >> tar -xvzf fpc-2.4.2.i386.tar Your assistance will be appreciated and the dividends will be corrected documentation. > _______________________________________________ > fpc-pascal maillist - > http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal > _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal

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