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Rainer Stratmann

Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? May be everyone is interested in this:
When searching text in lazarus, always the preconfiguration is 'searching from cursor'.
Wouldn't it be better that lazarus at least saves the choosen configuration in the search dialog box?
In nearly every case I thing someone wants to search the entire text. Also it would be better to preconfigure it to this button, then storing is not necessary.
May be someone can say: 'is is only one click'. But if you do it every time when starting the program it is more time than just one click. Rainer

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Matthias Klumpp
to Rainer Stratmann: Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? May be everyone is interested in this:
Rainer Stratmann wrote 5 lines
Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? May be everyone is interested in this: When searching text in lazarus, always the preconfiguration is 'searching from cursor'.

You may send this to the Lazarus developers list at [1]. Only they can change it.
Regards
Matthias Klumpp

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Rainer Stratmann
to Matthias Klumpp: On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:54:33 +0100, Rainer Stratmann You may send this to the Lazarus…
Matthias Klumpp wrote 13 lines
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:54:33 +0100, Rainer Stratmann wrote: > Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? > May be everyone is interested in this: > When searching text in lazarus, always the preconfiguration is 'searching > from > cursor'. You may send this to the Lazarus developers list at [1]. Only they can change it. Regards Matthias Klumpp

I apprehend this answer.
I don't want to subscribe every mailinglist.
At some reason it is not possible to unsubscribe me from the bugs-mailinglist. May be here is someone who is developing lazarus and has an open ear for it. By the way: do you develop with lazarus?
Rainer

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Paul Ishenin
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Rainer Stratmann wrote
I don't want to subscribe every mailinglist.

You can use the forum and the bug-tracker in any case.

At some reason it is not possible to unsubscribe me from the bugs-mailinglist. May be here is someone who is developing lazarus and has an open ear for it. By the way: do you develop with lazarus?

I do. Please submit your requests and patches to the lazarus bug tracker and they will not be forgotten. You can track the state of your issues easily.

The url is: http://bugs.freepascal.org/
<http://bugs.freepascal.org/my_view_page.php> and choose project Lazarus.

Best regards,
Paul Ishenin.

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Jonas Maebe
to Rainer Stratmann: I apprehend this answer. I don't want to subscribe every mailinglist. At some reason it…
Rainer Stratmann wrote
At some reason it is not possible to unsubscribe me from the bugs-mailinglist.

It's not a mailing list, but the bug tracker itself. I thought this problem has been solved by now. Do you still get mails if you log in to the bug tracker, go to "My Account", then to "Preferences" and then uncheck all checkboxes next to the "Email on ..." settings?

Jonas

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Martin
to Rainer Stratmann: Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? May be everyone is interested in this:
Rainer Stratmann wrote 12 lines
Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? May be everyone is interested in this: When searching text in lazarus, always the preconfiguration is 'searching from cursor'. Wouldn't it be better that lazarus at least saves the choosen configuration in the search dialog box? In nearly every case I thing someone wants to search the entire text. Also it would be better to preconfigure it to this button, then storing is not necessary. May be someone can say: 'is is only one click'. But if you do it every time when starting the program it is more time than just one click. Rainer

Interesting. I almost never want to search the entire text (at least not with the normal search). If I want to search the entire text, I much prefer "find in files" (all open units), because it displays the results in a nice list.

Martin

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Rainer Stratmann
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Rainer Stratmann wrote: > Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? > May be everyone is interested in this: > When searching text in lazarus, always the preconfiguration is 'searching > from cursor'. > Wouldn't it be better that lazarus at least saves the choosen > configuration in the search dialog box? > In nearly every case I thing someone wants to search the entire text. > Also it would be better to preconfigure it to this button, then storing > is not necessary. > May be someone can say: 'is is only one click'. But if you do it every > time when starting the program it is more time than just one click. > Rainer Interesting. I almost never want to search the entire text (at least not with the normal search). If I want to search the entire text, I much prefer "find in files" (all open units), because it displays the results in a nice list. Martin

Why do you want to search 'from cursor'?
The feature 'find in files' is interesting.
I did not use it before.

Rainer

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Martin
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Since this is purely lazarus related, I cross post this, and set reply-to to lazarus list.

@Rainer: You can read relevant posts in the archive:

http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/lazarus

Rainer Stratmann wrote 14 lines
Am Sunday 15 November 2009 20:03:21 schrieb Martin: > Interesting. I almost never want to search the entire text (at least not > with the normal search). If I want to search the entire text, I much > prefer "find in files" (all open units), because it displays the results > in a nice list. > > Martin > Why do you want to search 'from cursor'? The feature 'find in files' is interesting. I did not use it before.

If for example I am at the first relevant instance of an identifier. e.g a procedure-local variable, and I am at it's declaration. If the same word occurs earlier in the text, it is a different variable, belonging to a different procedure.

Truth is I use the find dialog very seldom. If I need to search I do a incremental search (search as you type) via ctrl-e => it does a better highlighting
If I need to do a replace (usually limited to one procedure) I used to use the find/replace, but now I use syncro-mode (select block, press icon on gutter / or select and ctrl-j)

Of course, not every search is starting from the cursor, but as I said, then I use find in files. The find dialog is (if used at all) reserved to find the next occurrence

And if I ever really want to use find, from top of file, I save myself the need of changing the option, I use: ctrl-home ctrl-f and I search from cursor

But it all comes down to personal likings. : I did it may way ...

Martin

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Mattias Gaertner
to Rainer Stratmann: Why do you want to search 'from cursor'? The feature 'find in files' is interesting. I…
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Am Sunday 15 November 2009 20:03:21 schrieb Martin: > Rainer Stratmann wrote: > > Is here a contact person who is developing lazarus? > > May be everyone is interested in this: > > When searching text in lazarus, always the preconfiguration is 'searching > > from cursor'. > > Wouldn't it be better that lazarus at least saves the choosen > > configuration in the search dialog box? > > In nearly every case I thing someone wants to search the entire text. > > Also it would be better to preconfigure it to this button, then storing > > is not necessary. > > May be someone can say: 'is is only one click'. But if you do it every > > time when starting the program it is more time than just one click. > > Rainer > > Interesting. I almost never want to search the entire text (at least not > with the normal search). If I want to search the entire text, I much > prefer "find in files" (all open units), because it displays the results > in a nice list. > > Martin Why do you want to search 'from cursor'? The feature 'find in files' is interesting. I did not use it before.

There are many cases where you want to search from cursor. Of course it is only a small percentage of all searches. Most searches can be done with Alt+Up, Ctrl+h, Ctrl+Shift+Up, Ctrl+Home.
A search in the whole unit is done with Ctrl+Home,Ctrl+F. Searches in many files is done with Ctrl+Shift+F.
Search next is F3.
So the remaining search is "search from cursor". And this is achieved with Ctrl+F.
That's why it is the default.

Formerly the From cursor/Entire Scope was saved. I don't know when this was broken. You are the first that notices it, so
apparently the default is ok for most users.

Mattias

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Rainer Stratmann
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Mattias Gaertner wrote
There are many cases where you want to search from cursor.

Can you give me examples?

Of course it is only a small percentage of all searches. Most searches can be done with Alt+Up, Ctrl+h, Ctrl+Shift+Up, Ctrl+Home. A search in the whole unit is done with Ctrl+Home,

I can not reconstruct this.

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Ctrl+F. Searches in many files is done with Ctrl+Shift+F. Search next is F3. So the remaining search is "search from cursor". And this is achieved with Ctrl+F.

This I can reconstruct.

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That's why it is the default. Formerly the From cursor/Entire Scope was saved. I don't know when this was broken. You are the first that notices it, so apparently the default is ok for most users.

Apparently.
I am sensitive to userfriendly programs. May be that is also a reason. Can you look how it is possible to save the settings? Rainer

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