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Re[2]: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable (???? ???????????) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:50:37 +0300 From: ???? ??????????? Subject: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r > > > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own > > > language, Is there a magic button to see the actual page with the text (some words are not very easy to translate without context, and width can be important sometimes, sometimes it's not that obvious to guess the right page)? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:03:34 +0100 (CET) From: Dani?l Mantione Subject: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef ???? ???????????: > > > > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own > > > > lan= guage, = > = > Is there a magic button to see the actual page with the text (some = > words are not very easy to translate without context, and width can be = > important sometimes, sometimes it's not that obvious to guess the right = > page)? You can click on "show files that use this message key". It isn't = everything, but the file name should tell you something about the URL a = message key is used on. Alternatively, enable translator mode and simply browse to the page you = would like to translate, then you will see everything in context. Dani=EBl ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:14:34 +0100 From: "Pianoman" Subject: [fpc-pascal] CDROM handling question To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello, I 'd like to ask how can I detect whether a CDROM drive is ejected. I have program which reads some data from CD after reading this data I eject the cd using some calls and user can replace the disk. How can I automatically close CD drive let's say after pressing enter? Regards Pianoman ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: fpc-pascal Digest, Vol 27, Issue 34 > Send fpc-pascal mailing list submissions to > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fpc-pascal digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Web site now translatable (???? ???????????) > 2. Re: Web site now translatable (Dani?l Mantione) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:05:08 +0300 > From: ???? ??????????? > Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable > To: FPC-Pascal users discussions > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r > >> If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own >> language, > > What encoding does it need? UTF8, UTF16, language specific (for example, > five are supported by Opera for cyrillic text, windows-1251 is the most > common). > > I can translate from English into Russian (I can bet I'm not the only > one). > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:10:59 +0100 (CET) > From: Dani?l Mantione > Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable > To: ???? ??????????? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef ???? ???????????: > >> > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own >> > languag= > e, = > >> = > >> What encoding does it need? UTF8, UTF16, language specific (for = > >> example, five are supported by Opera for cyrillic text, windows-1251 is >> = > >> the most common). > > Whatever you prefer. The database uses UTF-8, but I can configure the = > > website generator to generate any encoding. > > Dani=EBl > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > fpc-pascal maillist - > http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal > > End of fpc-pascal Digest, Vol 27, Issue 34 > ****************************************** > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:39:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Tomas Hajny" Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable To: "FPC-Pascal users discussions" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Daniël Mantione wrote: > Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef ???? ???????????: > >> > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own >> language, >> >> What encoding does it need? UTF8, UTF16, language specific (for >> example, five are supported by Opera for cyrillic text, windows-1251 is >> the most common). > > Whatever you prefer. The database uses UTF-8, but I can configure the > website generator to generate any encoding. Well, preferably the WWW server should accept the charset configured in the browser... Tomas ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:49:04 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Van Canneyt Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Tomas Hajny wrote: > Dani=EBl Mantione wrote: > > Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef ???? ???????????: > > > >> > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own > >> language, > >> > >> What encoding does it need? UTF8, UTF16, language specific (for > >> example, five are supported by Opera for cyrillic text, windows-1251 > >> is > >> the most common). > > > > Whatever you prefer. The database uses UTF-8, but I can configure the > > website generator to generate any encoding. > = > Well, preferably the WWW server should accept the charset configured in > the browser... Nooooo, = the browser should detect the charset sent by the server, and display it co= rrectly :-) If the client can do it, let the client do it. Golden rule for writing robust servers. Michael. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:50:03 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Van Canneyt Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] CDROM handling question To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Pianoman wrote: > Hello, I 'd like to ask how can I detect whether a CDROM drive is > ejected. I > have program which reads some data from CD after reading this data I > eject the > cd using some calls and user can replace the disk. How can I > automatically > close CD drive let's say after pressing enter? That highly depends on the platform. What OS do you use ? Michael. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:57:21 +0100 (CET) From: Dani?l Mantione Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef Michael Van Canneyt: > = > = > On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Tomas Hajny wrote: > = > > Dani=EBl Mantione wrote: > > > Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef ???? ???????????: > > > > > >> > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own > > >> language, > > >> > > >> What encoding does it need? UTF8, UTF16, language specific (for > > >> example, five are supported by Opera for cyrillic text, > > >> windows-1251= is > > >> the most common). > > > > > > Whatever you prefer. The database uses UTF-8, but I can configure the > > > website generator to generate any encoding. > > = > > Well, preferably the WWW server should accept the charset configured in > > the browser... If you want we can generate the pages in multiple encodings and use the same content negotitiation we use for the language to serve it in the right encoding. > Nooooo, = > the browser should detect the charset sent by the server, and display it > = correctly > :-) > = > If the client can do it, let the client do it. Golden rule for writing > robust servers. Well, you can make good use of this facility. Imagine a Russian using a = system that cannot display Cyrillic. Such system could still request a = page in Russian, but also community that it doesn't accept Cyrillic. The = web server can then send a Roman transliteration of the page. However, in practise I think we would be solving a problem that doesn't = exist, so no disagreement here. Dani=EBl ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:54:39 +0000 From: "Henry Vermaak" Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] CDROM handling question To: "FPC-Pascal users discussions" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Pianoman wrote: > Hello, I 'd like to ask how can I detect whether a CDROM drive is > ejected. I > have program which reads some data from CD after reading this data I > eject the > cd using some calls and user can replace the disk. How can I > automatically > close CD drive let's say after pressing enter? Hello, if you're in linux you can get tray position with a CDROM_DRIVE_STATUS ioctl call. There is a CDROMCLOSETRAY ioctl defined, but it didn't work for me (as far as I remember). Take a look at kernel docs for ioctl and cdrom.h. Henry ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:00:49 +0300 From: ???? ??????????? Subject: Re[2]: [fpc-pascal] Web site now translatable To: FPC-Pascal users discussions Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r > > Op Tue, 21 Nov 2006, schreef ???? ???????????: <-- it's me > >> > If you would like to make the FPC website available in your own > >> language, > >> What encoding does it need? UTF8, UTF16, language specific (for > >> example, five are supported by Opera for cyrillic text, windows-1251 > >> is > >> the most common). > > Whatever you prefer. The database uses UTF-8, but I can configure the > > website generator to generate any encoding. > Well, preferably the WWW server should accept the charset configured in > the browser... and > Nooooo, > the browser should detect the charset sent by the server, and display it > correctly > If the client can do it, let the client do it. Golden rule for writing > robust servers. I asked about encoding, because it is possible to enter text in incorrect encoding into "translator" (i.e.: "translator" supposes the text to be in windows-1251 and I enter text in ISO-8859-5 [for cyrillic text]). It looks like this problem does not arise if I type text in browser (Opera 9). WWW server may honour Accept-Charset HTTP request header, and it should be easy to translate text on server with known charset to another one, so any desire for accessibility (which is present, as I see, because otherwise the whole translation thing would not appear at all) leads to implementing this honour-thing. And client may have some problems displaying characters correctly (I don't think that it's possible to write 100%-hit encoding recognition) if the charset is not specified in the <meta http-equiv="content-type" ... charset="" > (well, if I get it right, it may be one step, not two, in the FPC website case; and as the webpages are static, there have to be copies with all the desired encodings). Anyway, it seems, that the website already deals with these things good enough. Most modern browsers do already support plenty of encodings. I didn't write anything ingenious, but if I'm wrong somewhere, please point at it. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal End of fpc-pascal Digest, Vol 27, Issue 35 ******************************************

On 11/21/06, Pianoman wrote: > Hello, I 'd like to do it under win32. Michael mentioned way under > linux if > someone knows sometihing similar for win32 let me know. > Thanx in advance I don´t think there was any need to start a new thread,