i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time. any schedule?
thanks.
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fpc pascal still alive?
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Franck Pissotte wrotei seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time. any schedule?
Not really, other than "soon". FWIW: of course fpc is still alive, you can easily follow the development progress by looking at the changes files linked from the development section of the web site.
Jonas
i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time. any schedule? thanks.…
you wrotei seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
The 1.0.4 release was quite stable and most work was done in the development branch and because the use of snapshots (which are very stable as well) is quite easy we didn't prepare a new release yet.
any schedule?
Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then we'll start preparing a release.
It certainly looks very much alive, not to say lively! from here... Fixes to 1.0.4, improvements for v1.1, compiler/rtl/ide for linux, go32, win32, os2 almost every day, new targets...unix, netbsd...m68k... See (daily/weekly) snapshots for these, which are mostly pretty reliable in lieu of new releases... Regards John
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal]fpc pascal still alive?
Franck Pissotte wrotei seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time. any schedule?
Not really, other than "soon". FWIW: of course fpc is still alive, you can easily follow the development progress by looking at the changes files linked from the development section of the web site.
Jonas
The 1.0.4 release was quite stable and most work was done in the development branch and…
Florian Klaempfl wrote 11 lines
At 10:33 27.11.01 +0100, you wrote:
>i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
The 1.0.4 release was quite stable and most work was done in the
development branch and because the use of snapshots (which are
very stable as well) is quite easy we didn't prepare a new release yet.
>any schedule?
Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then
we'll start preparing a release.
for most people who look at the main page of the site seeing 1.04 for almost a year can have the same idea than me. i prefer to download the full version dos and windows version with sources in one big file.
i think i will wait the new release unless
there exist the same file in snapshoot version.
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We don't zip everything into one big file for snapshots, but you can get all of the binaries in a few zip files eg basexx,idexx & a few other files (xx=go32 or w32) from the /snapshot directory of the freepascal.org ftp site, (either the v11 versions, or the v10 versions (in a separate directory. The snapshot files contain everything that's in a release... (they are produced by the same make process.
You can also get the sources in fpc.zip or fpc10.zip (quite big files) from /source... The v10 stuff is the fixed v1.0.4 which will be the next fix release v1.0.6, the v11 stuff is for the next release eg v1.1 which of course has new extra functionality... IMO the snapshots are worth trying, especially if there are specific things in v1.0.4 that don't work for you...J
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Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal]fpc pascal still alive?
Florian Klaempfl a �crit :
> At 10:33 27.11.01 +0100, you wrote:
> >i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
>
> The 1.0.4 release was quite stable and most work was done in the
> development branch and because the use of snapshots (which are
> very stable as well) is quite easy we didn't prepare a new release yet.
>
> >any schedule?
>
> Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then
> we'll start preparing a release.
for most people who look at the main page of the site
seeing 1.04 for almost a year can have the same idea than me.
i prefer to download the full version dos and windows version
with sources in one big file.
i think i will wait the new release unless
there exist the same file in snapshoot version.
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Hi there,
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> At 10:33 27.11.01 +0100, you wrote:
> >i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
>
> Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then
> we'll start preparing a release.
There'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be released. I feel the need for a new release for a long time -- 1.0.4 has many bugs on building libraries (ex: database units) and the FCL evolved so much. Maybe you are being too rigorous on the bugs yeat to be fixed?
I'd like to have a new "official" release every three or six months, even if it is marked as "unstable". Something like 1.0.5.0, 1.0.5.1, ...
[]s, Fernando Lozano
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Hi there,
> > At 10:33 27.11.01 +0100, you wrote:
> > >i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
> >
> > Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then
> > we'll start preparing a release.
There'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be
released. I feel the need for a new release for a long time -- 1.0.4 has
many bugs on building libraries (ex: database units) and the FCL evolved
so much. Maybe you are being too rigorous on the bugs yeat to be fixed?
I'd like to have a new "official" release every three or six months,
even if it is marked as "unstable". Something like 1.0.5.0, 1.0.5.1, ...
This is why we've the snapshots: simply download the parts you want to updated from the development page on the FPC website and extract them into your pp directory (usually c:\pp)
There'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be released. I feel…
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>>At 10:33 27.11.01 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>>i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
>>>
>>Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then
>>we'll start preparing a release.
>>
There'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be
released. I feel the need for a new release for a long time -- 1.0.4 has
many bugs on building libraries (ex: database units) and the FCL evolved
so much. Maybe you are being too rigorous on the bugs yeat to be fixed?
I'd like to have a new "official" release every three or six months,
even if it is marked as "unstable". Something like 1.0.5.0, 1.0.5.1, ...
In the Lazarus page there is a 1.0.5 (?)
By the way, it seemed not to be updated for a while, and I was unlucky at compiling (under Linux) and using (!) it under Windows... a pitty, as the project seemed quite interesting to me, what about this?
Aitor
you wrote 14 lines
>>>At 10:33 27.11.01 +0100, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>i seem that there is no new version of fpc-pascal for a long time.
>>>Nothing particular, but we're still fixing bugs and then
>>>we'll start preparing a release.
>
>There'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be
>released. I feel the need for a new release for a long time -- 1.0.4 has
>many bugs on building libraries (ex: database units) and the FCL evolved
>so much. Maybe you are being too rigorous on the bugs yeat to be fixed?
>I'd like to have a new "official" release every three or six months,
>even if it is marked as "unstable". Something like 1.0.5.0, 1.0.5.1, ...
In the Lazarus page there is a 1.0.5 (?)
1.0.5 is the version number for the snapshots, i.e. the current development sources
of the 1.0 branch.
By the way, it seemed not to be updated for a while, and I was unlucky at compiling (under Linux) and using (!) it under Windows... a pitty, as the project seemed quite interesting to me, what about this?
On lazarus mailing list is at least every 2. or 3. day a message about the newly done work. So it's
quite alive as well :)
There'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be released. I feel…
Fernando Lozano wroteThere'a month old "news" on the site stating that 1.0.6 was about to be released. I feel the need for a new release for a long time
i completely aggree.
I'd like to have a new "official" release every three or six months, even if it is marked as "unstable". Something like 1.0.5.0, 1.0.5.1, ...
not sure that 4 numbers are needed.
3 is good.
after an odd number release only bug fix to release an even number more stable.
We don't zip everything into one big file for snapshots, but you can get all of the…
John" wroteWe don't zip everything into one big file for snapshots, but you can get all
...
The snapshot files contain everything that's in a release... (they are produced by the same make process.
so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g>
IMO the snapshots are worth trying, especially if there are specific things in v1.0.4 that don't work for you...
i tried a little this version last january.
not enough delphi syntax compatibility, crash in ide and needed room on my hard disk.
i should have a new computer in two months so i think i will wait to save 2 hours of download and reinstallation. i will play with D6 personal for the moment.
It eg the v1.0.5 snapshots are a lot better now & changes hace certainly been made to del.phi compat & ide since Jan! It'd be good if you'd retry now & let us know the errors you find eg delphi compatibility, IDE errs, so we can be sure that the release when it comes is as good as possible...But of course it's up to you... J
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal]fpc pascal still alive?
"Lee, John" a �crit :
We don't zip everything into one big file for snapshots, but you can get
all
...
The snapshot files contain everything that's in a release... (they are produced by the same make process.
so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g>
IMO the snapshots are worth trying, especially if there are specific things in v1.0.4 that don't work for you...
i tried a little this version last january.
not enough delphi syntax compatibility, crash in ide and needed room on my hard disk.
i should have a new computer in two months so i think i will wait to save 2 hours of download and reinstallation. i will play with D6 personal for the moment.
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... so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g> i tried a…
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so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g>
> IMO the snapshots are worth trying, especially if there are specific
> things in v1.0.4 that don't work for you...
i tried a little this version last january.
not enough delphi syntax compatibility, crash in ide
and needed room on my hard disk.
i should have a new computer in two months so i think i will
wait to save 2 hours of download and reinstallation.
i will play with D6 personal for the moment.
If you need more Delphi compability than 1.0.4, you'll need a development system (1.1.x, which will be 1.2 or 2.0 in the future) anyway.
Most functionality there is roughly in place.
... so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g> i tried a…
you wrote 10 lines
"Lee, John" a écrit :
> We don't zip everything into one big file for snapshots, but you can
get all
...
> The snapshot files contain everything that's in a release...
> (they are produced by the same make process.
so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g>
Hmmm, but a real release must be "bullet-proofed".
I think 1.0.4 took me at least one week of work and I only did go32v2 and win32. If you don't believe, have a look at the release.tem file in the install module of the cvs. It lists the tasks which must be done for a release...
Hi Florian,
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>so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g>
Hmmm, but a real release must be "bullet-proofed".
I think 1.0.4 took me at least one week of work and I only did
go32v2 and win32. If you don't believe, have a look at
the release.tem file in the install module of the cvs. It lists
the tasks which must be done for a release...
Why don't you issue a "release candidate" and, if noone reports any serious bug in a week or two, re-release it as 1.0.6?
Let we "bullet-proof" the release, that how free software is suposed to work. :-)
[]s, Fernando Lozano
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Hi Florian,
> >so i wont be too difficult for fpc-team to make an official release.<g>
>
> Hmmm, but a real release must be "bullet-proofed".
>
> I think 1.0.4 took me at least one week of work and I only did
> go32v2 and win32. If you don't believe, have a look at
> the release.tem file in the install module of the cvs. It lists
> the tasks which must be done for a release...
Why don't you issue a "release candidate" and, if noone reports any
serious bug in a week or two, re-release it as 1.0.6?
Yes and no. Most work take things like updating the error message files for all languages, update the installer etc...
Further, my internet connection isn't that fast (ISDN, one line) so the upload of a release takes also some time.
Let we "bullet-proof" the release, that how free software is suposed to work. :-)
No, free (and open) software means that you use CVS to get always the most uptodate sources (and files) :)
In the Lazarus page there is a 1.0.5 (?) By the way, it seemed not to be updated for a…
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From: "Aitor Santamaria Merino"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal]fpc pascal (and Lazarus) still alive?
>
> In the Lazarus page there is a 1.0.5 (?)
>
> By the way, it seemed not to be updated for a while, and I was unlucky
> at compiling (under Linux) and using (!) it under Windows... a pitty, as
> the project seemed quite interesting to me, what about this?
>
The Lazarus project itself is still alive, but the web site is outdated.
One of the major problems with Lazarus on Windows is that Lazarus uses GTK+
as the default widget set. GTK+ for Windows was created in order to port
some significant X programs to Windows, but I don't think it's very suitable
for creating distributed GUI Windows programs.
From the best I can tell, GTK+ for Windows uses the Windows API to fake the
effect. The main problems I can see with this is that Windows and GTK+ have
totally different methods of constructing and manipulating GUIs and that the
Windows port must imitate the X version, so less-than-efficient workarounds
are inevitable. And what adds to the problem is that the LCL must imitate
the Windows paradigm (eg, LCLLinux contains equivalents to Windows-API
calls) in order to be even vaguely Delphi-compatible.
The only realistic way Lazarus-made applications can exist on Windows is to
use a native Windows interface. Lazarus was always designed to be
API-independent, so this wouldn't require a total re-working of the core
parts of Lazarus. In fact, a native interface is already there (the files
are in the lcl/interfaces/win32 directory of the Lazarus source) and I've
recently updated it so that it compiles and many things work. It's not very
mature, but the examples can show much of what has been done and that there
is hope in it being doable.
And if you have trouble compiling it, just join the Lazarus mailing list,
explain what's happening or not happening when you try to compile, and I'm
sure they'll be as helpful as always.
> Aitor
>
Yes and no. Most work take things like updating the error message files for all…
Hi Florian,
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>Why don't you issue a "release candidate" and, if noone reports any
>serious bug in a week or two, re-release it as 1.0.6?
Yes and no. Most work take things like updating the error
message files for all languages, update the installer etc...
Further, my internet connection isn't that fast (ISDN, one line)
so the upload of a release takes also some time.
ISDN and ADSL are still very expensive (and unavaliable) to many people like me. That's one reason I want new releases: download once and copy to my students.
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>Let we "bullet-proof" the release, that how free software is suposed to
>work. :-)
No, free (and open) software means that you use CVS to get always the
most uptodate sources (and files) :)
It also means the user community really influences the development of the software. Thanks a lot for sharing your concerns with us.
[]s, Fernando Lozano
Yes and no. Most work take things like updating the error message files for all…
when i use this
gtk_signal_connect_object(GTK_OBJECT(button_ok),'clicked',GTK_SIGNA L_FUNC (@bouton_ok),@texte[1])
At runtime i have a problem when my procedure button_ok is called...
procedure bouton_ok(widget : pGtkWidget ; data: gpointer); cdecl;gtk_widget_hide (widget); say (gtk_widget_hide): assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed.
like the data:gpointer is invalid ! not the original @texte[1]
Does somebody have an idea?
i use fpc 1.04 on linux
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exuse me for the previous title....and mail
i think it wa too late to work !!!
Lionel Drevon
Adeli http://www.adeli.fr
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