It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age. I don't get first messages from gmail and my personal web host is whitelisted, messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident, hard to search the archives, can't post images and code easily (big problem!), messages gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect, and the list goes on (pun not intended).

Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? I don't know how to manage this migration but it should be a goal for the future in my opinion.

Personally I really like the format used in forum.sublimetext.com which is from www.discourse.org.

Regards,
Ryan Joseph

Ryan Joseph wrote

Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum?

There are web forums if you prefer them to using a mailing list: https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/ (see the forums under the "Free Pascal" header).

There are no plans to remove the mailing lists.

Jonas

No offense, but there's no reason to jump to a forum because you're having mail issues.

Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum? I don't know how to manage this migration but it should be a goal for the future in my opinion.

No. No, it shouldn't.

Personally I really like the format used in forum.sublimetext.com which is from www.discourse.org.

Ugh. No thanks.

Use NNTP. I think the fpc lists are mirrored
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I personally prefer the mailing lists as I have a much better searchable archive available and can decide by myself whom I give my personal information (in this case Google).

Regards,
Sven

Indeed, I hope not.

Michael.

Not that I'm anyone special but I and many others who lurk for the most part would probably just lose track of the project.

Hello.

You may use http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/

This forum is an archive for the mailing list

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Many thanks ;-)

Completely irrelevant what year it is, I much rather prefer the mailing list over a forum. The main reason is simply that the mailing list is "non interactive", meaning my email client gets the new posts automatically and puts them in a suitable subfolder, where I can read and react to them at my leisure, I am not required to actively check if there is something new or a reply to an existing thread I am interested in.

A lot of issues that you mention can happen on a forum as well, so that is no argument. There are a lot of forums that in fact restrict the posting of images and other forms of attachments, simply to ward off the never ending endeavors of spam/malware spewing miscreants...

Ralf

Looks like everyone here likes the mailing list. Very well then.

Thanks, this looks really helpful. How does this nabble.com site work? It looks like it can intercept the messages from the mail list or something.

Regards,
Ryan Joseph

Ryan Joseph wrote

Thanks, this looks really helpful. How does this nabble.com site work? It looks like it can intercept the messages from the mail list or something.

Please move this discussion to the fpc-other mailing list.

Thanks,

Jonas

Ryan Joseph wrote

It's 2020 and the mail list is starting to really show its age.

With age comes wisdom.

I don't get first messages from gmail

That sounds like a gmail issue.

and my personal web host is whitelisted,

What does web hosts have to do with mailing lists?

messages bounce when I use the wrong account by accident,

As they should.

hard to search the archives,

I find my local archive of the list very easy to search.

can't post images and code easily (big problem!),

Program HelloWorld;
Begin
    WriteLn('Hello, world!!');
End.

Seems easy to post code to me. I haven't tried posting images.

messages gets lost or un-threaded when subjects are incorrect,

Upgrade your mail client. Modern mail clients should thread messages based on Message-Id and In-reply-to headers, not subjects.

Has there ever been any discussion into replacing it with a modern web based forum?

If the list is ever downgraded to an online forum, I will stop following it. I've tried following a variety of online forms over the years. I've never managed to follow any of them for very long.

No need to discuss this further, everyone loves the mail list. I'll try using the forums instead.

Regards,
Ryan Joseph

it should be noted that the forum(a) and the mailing list are not synced at all and do not carry the same conversations... the mailing list is gated to news, though... you'll have a much different audience on the forums than here...

I completely agree with that!

/Torsten

geneb wrote

Use NNTP. I think the fpc lists are mirrored !

This is what I have done since I began following FPC/Lazarus (using the GMane mirror of the mail list) and now I have a local searchable threaded archive of it all dating back to 2003 inside my news reader!

I was worried a short time ago when GMane suddenly stopped working but it turned out to be because of loss of the gmane.com domain... It was soon online again under the domain news.gmane.io and after changing my newsreader settings to that it just seamlessly continued working.

This is a LOT BETTER than the web based forums where you have no overview....

(I also use the Lazarus forum, but I could not live without the mirrored mail list.)

Again: please take this discussion to fpc-other.

Thanks,

Jonas